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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Mexico included
     
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    "In fact, Harris was never put in charge of the border or immigration policy. Nor was she involved in overseeing law-enforcement efforts or guiding the federal response to the crisis. Her mandate was much narrower: to focus on examining and improving the underlying conditions in the Northern Triangle of Central America—El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras—which has been racked by decades of poverty, war, chronic violence, and political instability. The strategy relied on allocating billions for economic programs and stimulating private-sector investment in the region in hopes that these programs would ultimately lead fewer migrants to make the dangerous journey north."

    So, she wasn't in charge of policy - she wasn't in charge of law enforcement or the federal response.

    What she was in charge of was narrower, and centered around three countries....

    If you want to claim she is incompetent because her role was limited and specific, so be it - but she wasn't ever in charge of the border. The Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security was - and Harris made that clear nearly four years ago, in direct quotes stating that she did not have that power or assignment - that belonged to Secretary of Homeland Security.
     
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    Also, "border czar" is a term made up by the right wing.
     
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    The President has asked Secretary Mayorkas to address what is going on at the border, and he has been working very hard and is showing some progress because of his hard work. I have been asked to lead the issue of addressing the root causes,” she said in response to a reporter’s question. She added that those causes “are not issues that are going to be addressed overnight.”


    This is a verbatim quote from Kamala Harris to the press over three years ago when she was asked to clarify her role.



     
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    But Mexico has a border with the U.S.

    Checkmate.
     
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    "Czar" means nothing in a political sense, it doesn't define role - but I am not even going to bother pointing that out because it is such a squishy term. However, the idea that Harris was in control of border policy at the US/Mexican border is objectively false. There is video and direct quotes from Harris discussing her assignment, and she specifically says that she is not in charge of the US border, and names the person that is....

    At this point, anyone that believes that Harris was in charge of the border is not operating in good faith. It isn't any different than anyone that believes Vance ****ed a couch.
     
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    Nook, I admire your attempts to authentically engage (and I suppose there's some value for readers not lost to their algorithms), but I hope you don't expect AtW to actually reciprocate.
     
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    It is the Babylon Bee .....
     
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    It doesn't matter how many times you guys try and twist what was said and what her appointment actually was, she was never put in charge of the border.

    1. She was put in charge of diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of massive immigration.

    She did in fact meet with other nations and discussed getting more investment to the other nations. She then spoke with business leaders in the United States. And she was at least partially successful as private investment did increase.

    Biden said, in reference to her being in charge of diplomatic efforts that she spoke with his voice. Again, she had some success.

    Since then, there was a bi-partisan bill to help address border issues and security. Trump called and asked Republicans to not pass it. Trump succeeded in blocking it.

    Biden invited both Trump and Republicans to work with him in dealing with any problems they had. They didn't accept the invitation.

    At no point was she ever charged with securing the border or made a border Czar
     
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    Part of humor working especially in political realm, the underlying claim of the joke has some validity to be funny.

    Otherwise "you are a pedo" would be all that is needed for a joke to work as their is no truth to that claim towards you I assume so it's just a smear at that point.

    And that's the problem with right wing comedy. Absurd strawmen are needed for the underlying comedy and it isn't funny.
     
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    Are you at the dnc right now with your heroes? Probably outside with protesters.
     
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    That youtuber is a Minstrel show.
     
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    WTF and a true patriot like Alex Jones is pimping it :rolleyes:........is this real? If so I hope some folks here in the good ole USA take them up on it, ZERO chance you will get arrested and thrown in prison and you can probably hang out with Steven Segal. My Old School GOP grand dad would roll over in his grave if anyone even hinted at something like this, Putin is not our friend.....he is a ruthless killer.
     
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    Retired federal appeals court Judge J. Michael Luttig, a prominent conservative legal scholar put on the bench by President George H.W. Bush, is endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris over former President Donald Trump, whose candidacy he describes as an existential threat to American democracy.

    It will be the first time Luttig, a veteran of two Republican administrations, has voted for a Democrat.

    “In the presidential election of 2024 there is only one political party and one candidate for the presidency that can claim the mantle of defender and protector of America’s Democracy, the Constitution, and the Rule of Law,” Luttig wrote in a statement obtained exclusively by CNN. “As a result, I will unhesitatingly vote for the Democratic Party’s candidate for the Presidency of the United States, Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris.”

    Luttig played a now famous role in persuading then-Vice President Mike Pence to defy Trump and certify the 2020 presidential election. In a series of tweets drafted at the request of Pence’s attorney, Luttig spelled out in stark terms the legal rationale for Pence to reject the former president’s attempt to overturn Joe Biden’s victory.

    “In voting for Vice President Harris, I assume that her public policy views are vastly different from my own,” Luttig writes, “but I am indifferent in this election as to her policy views on any issues other than America’s Democracy, the Constitution, and the Rule of Law, as I believe all Americans should be.”
     
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