You don't get comedy. If a normal person said this joke it would be light hearted. Someone who is obsessed with Green, it isn't a joke, it's just another way to attack. It matters who makes the jokes. If some guy who isn't that high on Jalen but doesn't trash him constantly like many posters here I wouldn't think of it as a malicious intent joke because their hate obsession wasn't what drove them to make a joke about Green. It's the difference between a right wing conservative comedian making a joke involving gay people vs someone who isn't. The former is going to seem more malicious because you understand their views on homosexuality. "You can't take a joke" doesn't work for people who hate the target of their jokes.
I don't think you get who is the one obsessed with Green. But I do have my obsessions in terms of high hopes. Cam, Tari and Amen are guys who I am obsessed with. Those guys I have high hopes of helping the TEAM make a leap. Green may help, but my confidence is low.
I think you don't get to decide how you are perceived. I have the self awareness to know I'm "obsessed" with Jalen Green as a fan. You don't have the self awareness to realize you are obsessed with hating Jalen Green. And therefore when you do comedy insults of Jalen Green you can't fall back to "people can't take a joke" because we know where you are coming from.
I'd imagine anyone that isn't either emotionally compromised by the subject who has a fully functioning brain would realize that if Jalen, or any player, played well and it helped the Rockets, I'd be happy about it. What you foolishly call "hatred" is nothing more than an honest assessment of how Jalen Green has played. That's all. Honestly might look like "hate" when compared to the zealous spin of superfans....but that doesn't make it so. The reason you have been freaking out so much lately is because you know the time for your guy to finally show he's a halfway decent player is running out and there's no amount of spin that will substitute for actual improvement on the court. You are worried that YOU will no longer be able to enjoy it here or watching the Rockets in general if your guy doesn't improve and is shown the door either at the trade deadline or next offseason. This is why you shouldn't get emotionally attached to players. They are temporary and quite often fail to live up to the hype.
Hatred can be judged by relentlessness, time dedication to arguing for a point. You post about Jalen Green more than me. You actually invest more time in Jalen Green than me and I'm coming from a fan perspective. It's the time dedication and understanding your history of narcissism that makes me confident you will not enjoy a Jalen Green hypothetical leap. Too much time dedication to your cause means it will impact your narcissism.
A Chat GPT AI bot of negative Jalen Green posts. Spits the same sh*t out over and over with synonyms surrounded by the same adverbs and pronouns. What a way to spends hours of free time in your life every month/week.
Your right, I don't decide what others perceive. But I am quite clear what my intent is when I say something, I don't hate Jalen Green and I never have. I just dont think he is a good basketball player, period. For clarity, the reason I respond so often to certain posts about Green is that it pushes my buttons when I think he is being misrepresented. Some of you folks make him out to be one of the best players on the team where to me, he is no where near that. If folks want to say they have high hopes for him or that they think he can turn it around, that is perfectly fair. I do have my flaws and one of them is letting folks like you get under my skin. Calling me out constantly as Jater or what not is annoying and feeds my inclination to respond. I definitely need to work on that.
Hatred is not something people admit. It's something people express through behavior. Your constant putting down of him in a frequent matter is a better indicator of your feelings of him than the words you type claiming you aren't a hater. You absolutely are. I'm lower on some players than others. I don't spam trade requests of those players. I don't **** on their long term projections and for every criticism I have of them I emphasize what they are really good at. I haven't mentioned a single character flaw of any of the young players. I don't constantly make attempts at witty digs at any of them or put down every positive post about them like you did here with him organizing a mini camp with his teammates. There is a difference between measured criticism and being a hater.
LOL, no. The entire notion of "hatred" comes from the emotional lens you view everything related to your guy Jalen. You outright love the guy, so you assume anyone who doesn't feel the same way way must hate him.....when that's simply not the case, at least when it comes to me. I'm indifferent as to him as a person, I don't like that he's been a draft bust for the Rockets, but if he ever became a quality player, I'd be happy that he was finally doing well for the team. I didn't like Russell Westbrook or Josh Smith on the Rockets either....I don't "hate" them though. I just prefer players who aren't mindless chuckers. That's really as deep as it goes. Honestly, I don't think you'll be able to see beyond your bias on this one, but it doesn't really matter, one way or the other, I think the answer to the Jalen question will be blatantly obvious 6 months from now....so keep on thinking that everyone in the world is just a "hater" for a bit longer....they'll either start praising him because for the first time in his career he became a good player, or the conversation will end outright because he won't be here anymore. That's how it was with the Lin fans, that's how it'll likely be with the Jalen fans.
Emotion.... Wouldn't you say the time you invested in putting Jalen Green down for the past 3 years has conjured some emotional investment in hoping he fails? Given that you mention Jalen Green more than me, a die hard stan. It's hard to imagine someone who mentions Jalen Green more often than a stan from a negative stand point not being a dedicated hater. Time and emotion go hand in hand. Anything you invest significant time in you attach emotion to and you are emotionally attached to your opinion about Jalen Green.
The sad thing is that's a wittier response than anything you've ever written. It was hilarious watching your little crybaby thread devolve into people calling it trash though, genuinely top tier.
No. Not at all. The reason the subject has garnered so much conversation is because it's kind of a big deal when a team drafts a player #2 overall and they end up being a disappointment. Add to that the constant disinformation campaign by those emotionally attached to him, and you get never ending back and forth. If there was a hotter topic, that would be what everyone was talking about....but a draft bust is going to be a fanbase's main subject of conversation for several years, especially when the bust label is disputed by some so passionately and blindly. With any luck, the Jalen topic will die forever within the next 6-8 months and there will be a new topic dominating conversation for a few years....hopefully a more positive topic.
Nah, you've shown your entire evaluation is based on nail painting and what you perceive to be "masculinity" and nothing to do with anybody rational. When you overplay your hand you lose any and all credibility I'm afraid.
You are playing with a double edged sword my friend... What if people KEPT believing on #1 Michael Olowokandi? Or #1 Kwami Brown? Or #2 Darko Milicic? Or #3 Adam Morrison? Or #1 Anthony Bennett? etc. Once again, after using our highest pick on him since 2002' (YAO).... "I WANT JALEN TO SUCCEED!" Having said that..... after 3 years of watching him play I still don't know if he is/was worthy of being a #2 pick! When he's ON, he's phenomenal, when he's NOT ON he can be detrimental to the team! THERE I SAID IT! I wish he wasn't such a damn enigma! The huggers are going to focus on me saying phenomenal, the haters on detrimental.... RINSE,WASH,REPEAT! Go Rockets!!! ....... ....... .......
Olowokandi best year = 12/9 Kwame Brown best year = 11/7 Darko Milicic best year = 8/5 Adam Morrison best year = 12/2 Anthony Bennett best year = 5/3 Sigh.
