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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. deb4rockets

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    In 4 more years Trump will be mumbling incoherently about how his election was stolen twice, and how he had the biggest crowds the world has ever seen. Hopefully, that's to a reporter covering his guilty conviction before he's finally taken away to prison for all his crimes.
     
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    Threesome at Chernobyl?

    Putin knows billionaire kink
     
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  3. Amiga

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    The Truth About Trump’s Press Conference
    His obvious emotional instability is frightening, not funny.

    By Tom Nichols

    Donald Trump’s public events are a challenge for anyone who writes about him. His rallies and press conferences are rich sources of material, fountains of molten weirdness that blurp up stuff that would sink the career of any other politician. By the time they’re over, all of the attendees are covered in gloppy nonsense.

    And then, once everyone cleans up and shakes the debris off their phones and laptops, so much of what Trump said seems too bonkers to have come from a former president and the nominee of a major party, so journalists are left trying to piece together a story as if Trump were a normal person. This is what The Atlantic’s editor in chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, has described as the “bias toward coherence,” and it leads to careful circumlocutions instead of stunned headlines.

    Consider Trump’s press conference yesterday in Florida. Trump has been lying low since President Joe Biden withdrew from the presidential race, at least in terms of public appearances. But Vice President Kamala Harris, the new Democratic nominee, and her running mate, Governor Tim Walz, are gaining a lot of great press, and so Trump decided it was time to emerge from his sanctuary.

    Trump, predictably, did an afternoon concert of his greatest hits, including “Doctors and Mothers Are Murdering Babies After They’re Born,” “Putin and Xi Love Me and I Love Them,” and “Gas Used to Be a Buck-Eighty-Something a Gallon.” But the new material was pretty shocking.

    Trump not only declared that mothers are killing babies in the delivery room—he’s been saying that for years—but added the incomprehensible claim that liberals, conservatives, and independents alike are very happy that abortion has been returned to the states. (When asked how he would vote in Florida’s abortion referendum, he dodged the question, which suggests that maybe not everyone is happy.)

    He said (again) that the convicted January 6 insurrectionists have been treated horribly, but this time he added that no one died during the assault on the Capitol. (In fact, four people died that day.) He made his usual assertion that Russia would never have invaded Ukraine if he’d been in office, but this time he added how much he looked forward to getting along with the Iranians, despite also bragging about how he tanked the nuclear deal with them.

    He claimed that Harris was sliding in the polls, a standard Trump trope in talking about his opponents, but he added that he was getting crowd sizes up to 30 times hers at his rallies. Harris recently spoke to approximately 15,000 people in Detroit; 30 times that would be nearly half a million people, so Trump is now saying that he’s having rallies that are five times bigger than the average crowd at a Super Bowl—bigger, even, than Woodstock—and somehow fitting them all into arenas with seats to spare.

    For the moment, let’s assume that Trump just gargled up a number he couldn’t comprehend. But he apparently knows we are in Olympics season, so he followed all of this by going for the gold: His rallies are not just big, they’re the biggest ever.

    “Nobody has spoken to crowds bigger than me,” Trump said. And then, referring to the crowd that gathered at his behest on January 6, he compared it to the 1963 March on Washington: “If you look at Martin Luther King, when he did his speech, his great speech, and you look at ours: same real estate, same everything, same number of people.”

    The March on Washington drew a quarter million people, almost six times the number that showed up during the attack on the Capitol. Trump agreed that official estimates said his crowd was smaller than King’s. He pressed on anyway: “But when you look at the exact same picture and everything is the same—because it was the fountains, the whole thing all the way back to go from Lincoln to Washington—and you look at it, and you look at the picture of my crowd … we actually had more people.”

    Then things got even weirder.

    Trump claimed that former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown said bad things about Harris while he and Trump were on a helicopter together. Oh—and the helicopter was in trouble:

    We thought maybe this was the end. We were in a helicopter, going to a certain location together, and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing. And Willie was—he was a little concerned.

    So I know him, but I know him pretty well. I mean, I haven’t seen him in years. But he told me terrible things about her. But this is what you’re telling me, anyway, I guess. But he had a big part in what happened with Kamala. But he—he, I don’t know, maybe he’s changed his tune. But he—he was not a fan of hers very much, at that point.
    Brown has not had to change his tune, because none of this ever happened. Trump may have confused Willie Brown with former California Governor Jerry Brown, with whom Trump once shared an uneventful helicopter ride. (One might think they’re hard to mix up: Willie Brown is Black; Jerry Brown is white.) In any case, trying to untangle the half-cooked pasta of a Trump story isn’t really worth the effort. The issue is that a former president is frighteningly delusional, and if any other candidate had done this—Biden was roasted over stories that were obscure but turned out to be true—it would dominate the news with understandable alarm about the well-being of the candidate.

    Reporters might listen to Trump and then understandably be reluctant to start typing stories that must feel like spec scripts for The West Wing pieced together by a creative-writing circle:

    The former president, lying about abortion laws, said women murder their own babies in the delivery room. He megalomaniacally claimed that he gets bigger crowds than anyone in history, and compared himself to Martin Luther King Jr. He descended into fantasy by telling a story about surviving a helicopter emergency that never happened with a man who wasn’t there.
    Instead, The New York Times ran this headline: “Trump Tries to Wrestle Back Attention at Mar-a-Lago News Conference.” The Washington Post said: “Trump Holds Meandering News Conference, Where He Agrees to Debate Harris.” The British paper The Independent got closer with: “Trump Holds Seemingly Pointless Press Conference Filled With False Claims,” but CNN went with “Trump Attacks Harris and Walz During First News Conference Since Democratic Ticket Was Announced.”

    All of these headlines are technically true, but they miss the point: The Republican nominee, the man who could return to office and regain the sole authority to use American nuclear weapons, is a serial liar and can’t tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

    Donald Trump is not well. He is not stable. There’s something deeply wrong with him.

    Any of those would have been important—and accurate—headlines.
     
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    That's pretty obvious. He's taken his pathological lying to a whole new level. It's bigger than anyone has ever seen before, unlike his crowds. :p
     
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  6. deb4rockets

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    Not only no, but hell no. He doesn't give a damn about loyalty to party or country. He only cares about himself. Me, me, me. I'm the most beautiful, the smartest, the greatest. America is doomed without me. Blah blah blah blah.

    Hell, Trump steps on people, stabs them in the back, or casts them aside to get what he wants, and he's found a bunch of morally and ethically corrupt associates and party members to help him along. They should have impeached him and testified against him when they had the chance.
     
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    It's a sinking ship way out off the coast. If the party was smart, they'd send no lifeboats or search party.


    I think Americans are starting to realize this, except for the small minority of loonies who can't admit to mistakes.
     
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  8. deb4rockets

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    I imagine a lot of his believers feel foolish for having being conned repeatedly by the snake oil salesman in a suit. It's easier for them to believe everybody else is out to get Trump, and he's the victim. They refuse to accept all the disputed lies Trump has fed them. It's easier for them to keep believing they weren't manipulated and conned by the orange man.
     
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    Many don't know that.

    I also liked " I used my tie to lasso the prop" bit. Trump has skills, that will impress ... many strong men ... with tears in their eyes ... and a propensity of starting sentences with the word "Sir" .



    ETA:
    What many do not know, Arnie knows.
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  10. krnxsnoopy

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    Trump is just a shitty person. Much like his followers.

    Racist, misogynistic, or selfish (pick one).

    Those things also describe Trump so it makes perfect sense.
     
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  11. deb4rockets

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    I'd say a lot of his followers fall into one or more of those 3 categories, but I'd add naive, stupid, and homophobic to that list. Some are simply too naive to believe he's a fraud, and some are too stupid or lazy to simply know how to fact check all his compulsive lies. Good people become victims of fraud by snake oil salesman and crooks like Trump every day.
     
  12. Mr.Scarface

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    Trump is in trouble. Everyone knows it. He is having trouble drawing MAGA crowds. Vance is terrible.
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    If Trump loses is this the end of MAGA, or is he still the king of the GOP?
     
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    Former California lawmaker Nate Holden says he was on the scary helicopter ride with Trump

    Former Los Angeles city councilman and California state Sen. Nate Holden said Friday that he was with former President Donald Trump in the helicopter ride that made an emergency landing, despite Trump saying it was former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown.

    “Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco,” Holden said in an interview with Politico late Friday. “I’m a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles.”

    “I guess we all look alike,” he added.

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    Raging uncontrolled racism or signs of dementia? You decide.
     
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  15. Amiga

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    Trump is a serious anti-vaxxer. Trump at his rally yesterday: "I will not give one penny to any school that has a vaccine mandate..." (he has repeated this numerous times)

    News to him, maybe, but every single public school in America has vaccine requirements.
     
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    Why not both?
     
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    Being against vaccine mandates does not make someone an "anti-vaxxer".

    It is concerning that you still aren't able (or willing) to intellectually grasp the differentiation between these.
     
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    When you’re against all school vaccine requirements that began over a century ago and have been widely enforced across all states for the past 50 to 70 years, you are absolutely an anti-vaxxer.

    Are you against all school vaccine requirements?
     
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    Pretty sure he was talking about Covid vaccines.
     
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