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Jabari Smith Jr.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by austinite, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Of our young prospects, I’m least worried about Bari. His floor is really high and he has a place in any system.
     
  2. Easy

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    A much better version of Ariza.

    Ariza was just an average (and inconsistent) 3pt shooter. Jabari in his 2nd season already reached Ariza's career shooting average and has the potential to get to a higher level. Plus, Jabari is 3 inches taller. Ariza did not have the size to defend the interior like Jabari can. And Jabari can do the pull up jumper with a couple of dribble. Ariza could only shoot spot up.
     
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    Well if that was the case, the son is better than the father.
     
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    He showed some flashes last year of what he could become. He is very similar to Rashard Lewis but can be even better. If he can perfect his 1-2 dribble pullups and dribble drive he will be a very good player in this league and will be sought after by many teams. Very exciting to see him in year 3.
     
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    I'm assuming you got that from basketball reference?
    That is a bad site for on'off impact as no attempt at removing noise is made.

    https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/team/11/onoff#tab-team_efficiency

    https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/5092/onoff#tab-team_efficiency

    Hence why analysts use sites like Syngery or Cleaning the Glass that make attempts at removing noise like garbage time. According to Cleaning the Glass Bari is in the 13th percentile league wide in on/off impact.

    Bari has actually the worst impact of all the young players but then again you can't really compare him to guys like Tari or Cam for on/off impact because those guys play against opposing bench units more than Bari. Bari though does have the worst on/off impact amongst the starters with Jalen a distant second worst almost tied with Dillon. It's fine as he is the youngest of the starters.

    What surprises me with these stats is Bari has a worse impact on defense than offense.
     
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  6. Dr of Dunk

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    Yup. If you go to Harrington's Twitter, you can see he posted pics of basically what the video shows from last August. The clothes they're wearing are the same and they're training with Adam Harrington. I think Jabari asked to jump into a training session that Harrington was having with KD, and they said "ok". Doesn't mean they didn't do it again this year, though.
     
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    I think we've already seen everything Jabari can offer - he'll become even more consistent at shooting threes, rebounding and defending on the perimeter and that will make him a usable role player. But I don't think it's realistic to expect him to become a third option. He's a big who can't play inside on offense or defense, which means he's an easy target for offensively-skilled big men (even those who are shorter than him) and he can't punish teams for switching small defenders on him. To improve these weaknesses, he'll need to be stronger, more explosive, more coordinated and have a much bigger bag of offensive tools. The strength and offensive tools can be developed, but his explosiveness and innate coordination are probably as good as they can be. Add to this the fact that he's never demonstrated much in the way of basketball IQ, and he seems to have a very defined ceiling that is not anywhere near third option.

    If I were the Rockets' GM, Jabari would be the first "young prospect" that I'd add to trade package for a superstar. Better to get value for him now than to overpay him when his contract is up and have him become the equivalent of an overpaid Tobias Harris on the 76ers.
     
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    From big shot bob..

    To big shot Bari.....

    You keep those types, especially if you have your guy or two.......Which after this season will be extra clear on who or who not is that said guy

    I feel they got two, but we shall see
     
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    My only concern with him is he keeps getting thinner rather than stronger. I think he wants to be a 3/4 but he would actually make a killer 4/5.

    I want a little less Jayson Tatum and a little more Kevin Garnett from him in terms of style/attitude.

    You're right though, he's a plug n play guy. Has a winning attitude, hard worker, coachable. Everyone needs 3's and defense. A small step up in shooting and defense next season would give him a great future in the NBA.
     
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    I don’t know if he is getting thinner or not, but he certainly doesn’t look like he’s put on an extra 10-15 lbs of muscle as I had hoped. Surely, the Rockets strength and conditioning team is part of his off-season efforts. Maybe they have reasons to want him to become thinner and maybe more agile. I don’t get it, but I’m not sure how privy we are on the Rockets personnel plan. Maybe they want him to become a SF primarily.
     
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    Jabari is so young. I don't know how anyone can confidently say we've seen all he'll ever be at this point. We all asked him to get a little bigger in year 2, get more consistent with his shooting, and gain confidence. He did all of that AND tightened his handle dramatically from year 1. I see no reason to believe we know his ceiling yet after 1 year of real coaching, but we certainly know his floor, and it's a fantastic floor to have.
     
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    Agree completely.
     
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    Stop it. Ariza was elite at stopping superstar shooting guards.
     
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    Jabari was a sophomore last year and when he did not play, the Rockets went 2-4. In games where Jabari scored more than 20 points, the Rockets went 9-4.

    At worst, Jabari is the most important defensive player on the Rockets. At best, Jabari is the difference between a 45 win season and a 50+ win season. We were noticeably worse on defense in those games Jabari wasn't there. I'm incredibly bullish on Reed/Jabari/Sengun/Amen as the "core".
     
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    I don't even know what this means so I guess it's purposefully vague, but yeah he's obviously not as good as Brooks or Thompson and probably not even as Vanvleet, positionally adjusted, and Eason though he didn't play last year.

    So, yeah let's go with "most important" to categorize the guy who didn't get a single all-defensive team vote and likely will never make an all defense team.
     
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    I think Jabari can become a 2nd option. Because he has the ability to score at all 3 levels at a high percentage it makes him more valuable
     
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    Been in the league 2 years
    Going to be just 21 years old for his entire 3rd season
    Improved his 3pt% by 7% and his overall FG by 5%
    But he reached his potential?

    This is the year we start to see who Jabari is really going to be. Nothing he's shown us has said he will cap at a 3rd option. Perhaps being the 1st option is not there but a strong 2 is still a possibility.
     
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    100%

    To say he or any of the core have reached their potential is laughable. None of them are even close to their prime years yet.
     
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    Folks, we have a finalist for sarcastic post of the year.
     
  20. cheke64

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    It's not sarc. It's the truth.
     
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