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Trade deadline needs and watch party

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by IdStrosfan, Jul 4, 2024.

  1. SuraGotMadHops

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    I mainly going back to the earlier point that with a more diligent offseason we wouldn't be in this kind of shape. It's a compounding annoyance.
     
  2. Nook

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    Encourage them to sell rentals - sign stars young and try to keep them.... but there are lots of regulars that are not stars that can be traded.
     
  3. Nook

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    Agreed - but the fact that the traditionally smart teams were in the same position as the Astros tells me it wasn't negligence.... now if this becomes a trend, then I will have a major issue with them.
     
  4. Baseballa

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    If that last sentence is true, then it's even a larger indictment on Dana than the Kikuchi deal. Anyone with a working set of eyes could look at our farm system and know that we would likely not win any bidding wars for difference makers. If that was the strategy behind not pursuing free agents, then that is inexcusable.
     
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  5. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    In all fairness, Caratini came back.
     
  6. donkeypunch

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    Dipoto has only been there from 2015. Hes turned things around. That whole staff is under control and they will be competing for a while, longer than the rangers will.
     
  7. BMoney

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    Point taken. It ain't over until it's over. I just worry about the pitching and Espada in the playoffs.
     
  8. tehG l i d e

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    Front office had to pay a big price for a negligent off-season. And this isn’t hindsight, their were plenty pleading them to sign a Lorenzen and/or Kirby Yates, etc. but they just stood pat. I stand by sentiment that Hader wasn’t necessary and we would’ve been better off spreading the money around to fill more pressing needs. But they chased the big, splashy name.
     
  9. Rvo384

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    Yep
     
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  10. MadMax

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    We are in first place in our division with Tucker and Garcia and Verlander waiting to join….maybe take a breath
     
  11. raining threes

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    Underwhelming
     
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  12. Rvo384

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    Tucker isn’t coming back for a while….
     
  13. raining threes

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    Spot on

    Awesomeness
     
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  14. lnchan

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    Looking back... if anything we went too splashy with the Hader signing, there wasn't much that made logical sense if we assumed Verlander, Javier, Urquidy, Garcia would be healthy, and none of the firstbase options were decent.


    here's who was available with WAR in the previous season in parenthesis:

    CATCHERS
    Gary Sánchez (31 years old, 3.0 WAR) -- signed 1-year deal with MIL (Feb. 21)
    Mitch Garver (33, 2.4) -- signed 2-year deal with SEA (Dec. 28)
    Victor Caratini (30, 2.3) -- signed 2-year deal with HOU (Dec. 7)
    Tom Murphy (33, 1.3) -- signed 2-year deal with SF (Dec. 23)
    Roberto Pérez (35, 0.5) -- signed MiLB deal with BOS (Dec. 14)

    FIRST BASEMEN
    Rhys Hoskins (31 years old, 2.3 WAR) -- signed 2-year deal with MIL (Jan. 26)
    Carlos Santana (38, 2.7) -- signed 1-year deal with MIN (Feb. 7)
    Brandon Belt (36, 2.4)
    Donovan Solano (36, 1.8) -- signed MiLB deal with SD (April 17)
    Garrett Cooper (33, 1.6) -- signed MiLB deal with CHC (March 2)

    SECOND BASEMEN
    Elvis Andrus (35 years old, 4.6 WAR) -- signed MiLB deal with AZ (March 3)
    Whit Merrifield (35, 3.0) -- signed 1-year deal with PHI (Feb. 19)
    Tony Kemp (32, 1.5) -- signed 1-year deal with BAL (March 26)
    Kolten Wong (33, 1.5) -- signed MiLB deal with AZ (April 10)
    Adam Frazier (32, 1.3) -- signed 1-year deal with KC (Jan. 30)

    SHORTSTOPS
    Amed Rosario (28 years old, 2.9 WAR) -- signed 1-year deal with TB (Feb. 20)
    Brandon Crawford (37, 2.6) -- signed 1-year deal with STL (Feb. 27)
    Isiah Kiner-Falefa (29, 1.6) -- signed 2-year deal with TOR (Dec. 29)
    Tim Anderson (31, 1.5) -- signed 1-year deal with MIA (Feb. 24)
    José Iglesias (34, 1.0) -- signed MiLB deal with NYM (Dec. 5)

    THIRD BASEMEN
    Matt Chapman (31 years old, 7.6 WAR) -- signed 1-year deal with SF (March 3)
    Justin Turner (39, 3.6) -- signed 1-year deal with TOR (Jan. 30)
    Jeimer Candelario (30, 3.1) -- signed 3-year deal with CIN (Dec. 11)
    J.D. Davis (31, 3.1) -- signed 1-year deal with OAK (March 16)
    Gio Urshela (32, 2.7) -- signed 1-year deal with DET (Feb. 22)

    CENTER FIELDERS
    Cody Bellinger (28 years old, 5.9 WAR) -- signed 3-year deal with CHC (Feb. 27)
    Kevin Kiermaier (34, 3.2) -- signed 1-year deal with TOR (Dec. 28)
    Michael A. Taylor (33, 3.2) -- signed 1-year deal with PIT (March 16)
    Adam Duvall (35, 2.9) -- signed 1-year deal with ATL (March 14)
    Harrison Bader (30, 2.5) -- signed 1-year deal with NYM (Jan. 5)

    RIGHT FIELDERS
    Teoscar Hernández (31 years old, 4.3 WAR) -- signed 1-year-deal with LAD (Jan. 12)
    Hunter Renfroe (32, 3.1) -- signed 1-year deal with KC (Dec. 19)
    Jason Heyward (34, 1.8) -- signed 1-year deal with LAD (Dec. 6)
    Randal Grichuk (32, 0.4) -- signed 1-year deal with AZ (Feb. 17)
    Wil Myers (33, 0.3)

    DESIGNATED HITTERS
    Shohei Ohtani (29 years old, 18.4 WAR) -- signed 10-year deal with LAD (Dec. 11)
    J.D. Martinez (36, 3.1) -- signed 1-year deal with NYM (March 23)
    Jorge Soler (32, 2.4) -- signed 3-year deal with SF (Feb. 18)
    Matt Carpenter (38, 2.0) -- signed 1-year deal with STL (Jan. 19)
    Andrew McCutchen (37, 1.5) -- signed 1-year deal with PIT (Dec. 20)

    STARTING PITCHERS
    Shohei Ohtani (29 years old, 18.4 WAR) -- signed 10-year deal with LAD (Dec. 11)
    Aaron Nola (31, 10.2) -- signed 7-year deal with PHI (Nov. 19)
    Blake Snell (31, 7.7) -- signed 2-year deal with SF (March 19)
    Sonny Gray (34, 7.6) -- signed 3-year deal with STL (Nov. 27)
    Jordan Montgomery (31, 7.0) -- signed 1-year deal with AZ (March 29)

    RELIEF PITCHERS
    Reynaldo López (30 years old, 2.8 WAR) -- signed 3-year deal with ATL (Nov. 20)
    Josh Hader (30, 2.5) -- signed 5-year deal with HOU (Jan. 22)
    Hector Neris (35, 2.5) -- signed 1-year deal with CHC (Feb. 1)
    Jakob Junis (31, 2.0) -- signed 1-year deal with MIL (Feb. 7)
    Craig Kimbrel (36, 2.0) -- signed 1-year deal with BAL (Dec. 6)
     
  15. raining threes

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    They could've signed Lorenzen and not signed Caratini and had money left over for trades. BTW, I like Caratini.
     
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  16. BMoney

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    I hope they learn their lesson about this.
     
  17. houstonstime

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    Fair, but I would have rather done Bloss, Loperfido, and others package for Yandy rather than Kikuchi. But maybe that wasn’t an option
     
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  18. lnchan

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    I am happy that we didn't shoot the future team into the grave even further.
     
  19. Htown Stros

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    Mariners fans have all been begging for this guy to be fired for awhile now. Look at the trades/signings he has made lately…they haven’t exactly worked out.
     
  20. Castian Crew

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    Not sure how he survived the IL black hole. May need to ask him a few questions
     

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