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2024 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 23, 2024.

  1. juicystream

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    I know he hasn't become the star he was seen as after that first postseason, but that still seems awfully light price to pay.
     
  2. Snake Diggit

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    Arozarena brought back the rough equivalent of AJ Blubaugh and Chase Jaworsky plus a PTBNL. Provided the PTBNL isn’t a major prospect, that’s a great deal for Seattle, especially considering they’re dealing with a deeper system than Houston. Of course, it’s Tampa, so both guys will probably end up being studs.
     
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    I am afraid with our limited assets that the Rangers and Mariners are both going to out do us. It is reality unfortunately. Those damn lost picks because of 2017 are really starting to hurt us.
     
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    If I was a Tampa Ray fan I would never pay full price for a jersey
     
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    Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if the rangers share the lead with us after this weekend. It’s a 3 headed race again. Really wish we would have made a move for a SP a couple weeks ago.
     
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  6. lnchan

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    So are you saying Abreu has a chance to rebound if we re-sign him to pennies?
     
  7. lnchan

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    Just pay for customized ones for yourself.
     
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  8. Htown Stros

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    Yeah, he’s a solid player and for that price it makes sense for the M’s. That said, they just can’t help themselves when it comes to adding these high K guys.
     
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  9. Mr.Pringles

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    No, all the trade deadline deals from the previous 7 seasons are starting to hurt us. But there’s still plenty enough to address the needs which isn’t much.
     
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    Yeah his April and May had been bad, but he's picked it up since. Hope he goes back to being like April when he goes to the Mariners.
     
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  11. raining threes

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    There's enough in the system to fill the needs. Look at how little it cost for the Mariners to add Rosa.
     
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    I don't agree with that comparison.

    According to mlbpipeline, both of these prospects have 45 grades. The Astros only have 11 prospects rated that high.

    Smith is rated w/ 50 or better at all 5 tools and is only 20 yrs old, so he is basically Joey Loperfido 5 years younger and with a much better hit tool.

    Hopkins is 22 and has 2 60 grade pitches, a 50 and a 45 w/ 45 control. That's probably close to Blubaugh only 2 years younger.

    Both of these guys would be top 10, maybe top 8 or better in the Astros system.

    Say: Loperfido and Bloss but I still think Seattle got a deal.
     
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    He's post season proven though.
     
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    Even if Dana had to pay above market rate. Making a deal early versus late could be the difference between making or missing the playoffs.
     
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    So has the Tampa fire sale started?
     
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    Let's say equally as valuable then.
    No way you give up basically 3 top 100 players for Paredes.
    Baez and Blubaugh perhaps.
    Melton and Blubaugh even.
    No way both Baez and Melton.
    Bloss is not tradeable right now.
     
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    Wouldn't have minded Arozarena, but don't think he's a needle mover. I think a Chas/Loperfido platoon will be roughly as good when you factor in defense, with upside to be better. If you are trading prospects from an already thin farm you at least want to be confident you are getting a noteworthy improvement.

    Although who the f**k knows what's going on with Tucker, him not coming back would definitely change the math.
     
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    For a middle of the order hitter with 3 years of control you do.
     
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  19. IdStrosfan

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    Agree the Astros can't trade a SP off of MLB roster but I think Paredes is worth both Melton, Baez AND another top 10 prospect - maybe Fleury or Gordon, I would even go Blubaugh to close the deal.

    Melton has a contact issue that likely will be expoited in AAA and MLB, a la Loperfido and can be replaced by Joey or Leon as CF of the future.

    Baez looks to be limited defensively which would probably make him closer to the 8-10th best prospect in a better system.

    Paredes is proven, fills a huge hole, and controllable for 3 more seasons.

    They need to overpay and get him.

    Look at the 4 prospects in the Grienke deal - Beer, Martin , and Bukauskas were all 50 or better prospects. They would all be top 4 in the Astros system today.

    In fact Beer may be a very good comp for Baez.
     
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  20. Wulaw Horn

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    Loperfido and Bloss would have been just fine with me for him. Thats not a devastating loss unless you think bloss has more than MOR upside or that Dana and the development team will somehow lose the ability to find and develop MOR guys (which they’ve done a shitload of). Neither are a big deal for me so to get a borderline all star with 3 playoff runs left on a reasonable number that fixes one of the two gaping holes in our lineup would have been awesome.
    Maybe (though I doubt it) we have something better up our sleeve.
     
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