Holy sh*t…body cam footage of murder gets released

I don't know guys. I saw the video a couple days ago and when watching it for the first time it was really eerie.

It was like she sensed evil, and when she said "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" two times, a demon took over and he killed her.

OBVIOUSLY, this was a cold-blooded murder and the officer should spend the rest of his days in prison.

But as a Christian man, I do believe God and the devil exists- and there was something very ominous and eerie about the whole thing. Hard to explain, but that's the feeling I got.

If any of you have ever been in the presence of evil and felt that ominous feeling, you'll know what I'm talking about.

 

That is not what I see in the videos.

 

If you've ever been around someone who is schizophrenic you also know what I'm talking about.

 

I'm not religious and she was mentally ill but that is an interesting perspective because it certainly was evil particularly the attitude afterwards

 

Here are 4 screen captures.





The pot is black on the ledge of the sink. She is using oven mitts that's red on one side and white on the other. It's clear that she's not holding anything aside from oven mitts when she's crouching down.

 

Donnymost is dug in guys on his theory she could have thrown the pot.

When I was 12 my mother had a really close who had 2 sons who were having some issues in life, they were in their 20s.

One day their father and one was arguing. The son fell asleep on the couch and they had just finished frying some fish and the father poured the hot fish grease on him


I will never forget visiting them after it happened, he had bandages all over his body

 

As stated I'm not a firearms expert but there is a big difference between what you are describing. The drill of an assailant coming at you unobstructed with a weapon from a distance is against a defender with a holstered weapon. This was even done on Mythbusters.


That is very different from the situation that happened in this situation where Grayson has his pistol out and aimed already with a counter in between.


Would you agree that these are two very different situations?

Again these are subjective standards and you can believe what you want. I'm trying to present the evidence showing that it would be difficult for Massey to be an imminent threat warranting deadly force. Ultimately a jury will decide but I think the evidence is pretty strong that deadly force not only wasn't warranted Grayson acted with malicious intent.

 

I see her set the pot down (or at least take her hands off it) after Grayson draws his weapon. She puts her hands in the air ("I'm sorry" and crouches down). Then as Grayson approaches, she grabs the pot again. Is that what you see as well?

 

It's not about how sure I am something happened as I am unsure what actually happened.

If I'm going to convict someone for 1st degree murder (20 years to life) I want to be pretty damned sure.

 

Seeing that video it does appear she is in the motion of throwing the water. I will note that it appears he shot her almost the instant her arms came up which would strengthen the argument that Grayson was responding to an imminent threat.

I will note also that she's crouching and isn't appearing to move towards Grayson while it's Grayson who is moving towards her. Also will note that it doesn't appear that any of the water get's close to Grayson. This may be due to that she was shot in the act of the throwing the water but it could also be due to that it isn't easy to throw a pot a water at someone who is several feet distance.

I will agree with @DonnyMost this video does help Grayson's case against a first degree murder charge. I still think there is strong evidence regarding whether she represented enough of a threat for lethal force to be considered.

 

FWIW I hope that Massey's family is awarded a lot of money for their grief and that Grayson never works in any kind of meaningful capacity with the public ever again.

This was so avoidable.

 

Another blemished record for Deputy Grayson. This one is for "misconduct" and he was discharged from the Army in 2014-16.
https://ipmnewsroom.org/deputy-who-...-discharged-from-army-for-serious-misconduct/

 

I sensed that too as a Christian. I stated in my earlier post that the unhinged cop has something something in him and that’s why she sensed some kind of evil spirits in him and tried to rebuke him.

The whole thing is so bizarre that I’m still trying to wrap my head around it. This poor lady does not deserve to die like this under the hands of this lunatic cop.

 

A.. Can't believe im actually saying this, but I agree with you about Donny
B. Sorry to hear about your friend..
C. There is a difference between pouring and throwing... But I get what you are saying

T_Man

 

yes. That's my interpretation of the the event as well. The question is then why would she reach up and grab the pot. It could be to 'drop the ****ing pot' because the officers told her to, maybe she grabbed it to protect herself, or grabbed it to fling it at Grayson.

The fact that Grayson drew his gun as a reaction to her saying 'rebuke you in the name of Jesus' is a vast overreaction. Grayson pointing his gun at her, yelling instructions, and walking up to her escalated the situation.

 

No this is all about what you want to see...

1. So at the 12:05 Mark they ask her to go check on the pot on the stove.
2. At the 12:07 Mark you can see that she has to Pot holders.. No way in Hell she throwing water holding the pot with those things.. Their not gloves
3. At 12:20 Mark she states I rebuke in the name of Jesus... At the 12:23 Mark she says it again.. As soon as she states that the Cop takes that as a threat and states you better F'n not.. As others have stated.. That is scarey...
4. At the 12:28 Mark the Cop has he's gun out and Massey has ducked down behind the counter.. she has no weapon... all she has is a a hot pot.. Which if you have held a hot pot with those pot holders the pot is going to the ground
5. At the 12:30 Mark the cop is shooting... He is a safe distance away from the woman where she only has a F'n pot

So you can be dug in on your theory all day long.. that was murder.

T_Man

 

This is speculation on my part but here is how I think the situation played out.

The LEO tell Massey to turn off the stove and Massey complies picking up the pot of water she was boiling to dump it out in the sink.

Grayson doesn't feel like Massey is respecting his authority and Massey feels threatened by Grayson. Massey says "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" as a curse / insult towards Grayson. Grayson interprets this as threat and draws his weapon and aims it Massey. He and his partner tell Massey to drop the pot. Massey who was already feeling threatened and frightened cowers down with her hands still on the pot. Grayson approaches around the counter to get a view of Massey. Massey panics when she sees Grayson come around the corner and lifts the pot over her head to fling at Grayson. Grayson shoots her the moment he sees her lift the pot. She falls back the pot falls out of her hands and spills the water over the floor.

This scenario would fit with the evidence we've seen so far and might give Grayson an argument of self-defense. There are a couple of other factors that don't help Grayson.
1. Is that when Grayson draws his weapon and aims it at Massey she is not engaged in any threatening behavior other than saying she rebukes him in the name of Jesus. She's not moving towards him and is standing at the sink with the pot.
2. The distance she is from Grayson and with a counter in between them would make it almost impossible for her to do much harm to him or his partner at that point.
3. Grayson's language and behavior is aggressive and hostile towards Massey well before she could be considered threatening.
4. After shooting Massey Grayson is callous and doesn't show any standard of care towards Massey. Even telling his partner to not bother with checking on her or rendering aid.

I don't think it's impossible for Grayson to acquitted and 1st degree murder might be hard to prove. Grayson hostility towards Massey before the shooting and his callousness after could indicate a depraved state of mind.

 

I grew up in the evangelical church, and many of my family members have this muscle memory reaction to nearly everything that could potentially be inconvenient to their political view. It's not a gun control issue.... Dillon Roof was just possessed by the Devil. It's a police culture & training problem... its the devil who was possessing that one cop.

This interpretation of events also always leads back to the narrative that the answer is that America just needs more Christian values engrained in our daily lives, and we need to exorcise all the evil in our culture & in Hollywood, the media, etc. etc.

Maybe this was an instance where the victim sensed a demon..... or maybe this is a situation where a police officer encountered an innocent civilian who was mentally going through some challenges, and their training & culturally produced high alarm fear caused the officer to react in one way, and one way only which is immediate head shot without any sort of protocol, or critical thinking that could have resulted in a different approach with this victim.

Regardless of which version it is of the truth, your narrative, if it was allowed to stand would dictate that no changes are necessary with police training and behavioral mgmt/development. And your narrative would also promote your agenda in the end to have more and more religious integration into our government... further eroding separation of church and state.

So coming from you... yeah I'm not ready to go there with the whole "Its a DEMON!!" narrative. I've heard that explanation far too many times with evangelical right wingers as the convenient answer to everything.

 

How the HELL do you get a job as a police officer with a General Discharge... smh...

T_Man

 

According to the video, he immediately started cursing at her after he heard that phrase clearly and threatened to shoot her in her f..king face. Freaking bizarre!