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Holy sh*t…body cam footage of murder gets released

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Jul 22, 2024.

  1. Andre0087

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    How many police departments has this guy rotated through? There should be a national database of all cops at the local, county, and state level including disciplinary actions taken against them. It's too bad this scumbag couldn't have been put down before he took an innocent life...we're not even safe in our own homes smdh.
     
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  2. deb4rockets

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    Why am I picturing StupidMoniker digging through his legal books to find some way to try and justify shooting that black woman in the face? I wonder if he watched the clip 30 times for his angle on it to justify self-defense.
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I responded to RR because I know I have sewn the negative reports on officers but a lot of times it just a charge that the agency dismissed

    One issue is police officers have strong unions
     
  4. Rocket River

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    . .. and when he gets off with a slap on the wrist . . . .
    will it be "racebaiters" furthering hatred, violence and riots
    when justice is not served?
    Will you do anything more than say. . . "oh that;'s a shame but its an 'isolated' incident" ???

    Rocket River
     
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  5. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    BS. Any jury in the nation will convict that cold blooded murderer based on the body cam footage. And he will not get off with a slap on the wrist.
     
  6. Rocket River

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  7. DonnyMost

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    I doubt he will get prosecuted. Suspended or fired yes. Criminal conviction no. I doubt they even bring charges.
     
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  8. Reeko

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    He has already been charged with 1st degree murder
     
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  9. rocketsjudoka

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    After George Floyd we've seen more indictments and convictions of LEO.
     
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  10. noize

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    Damn. That's premeditated first degree murder. Dude set her up to hold the boiling water and just shot her 3 times.
     
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  11. Corrosion

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    I want to forget I saw that, I don't want to imagine we live in that type of world ..... I still can't believe what I saw in that video.



    He'll join Chauvin in protective custody for the duration.
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    I meant the grand jury. Indict was the correct word, my bad.
     
  13. Reeko

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    a grand jury indicted him last week…he’s being held without bond
     
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  15. DonnyMost

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    That's really surprising.

    I think he walks. We'll see though.

    The fact she and he both go off camera at the moment it happens is going to make things difficult for the prosecution.

    Right as the shots happen you can see a very large amount of boiling hot water come flying at the officer, but it's unclear whether that was her attacking them or simply spilling it.
     
  16. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Hey guys, I never typically set foot in D&D but this was absolutely horrible. An example needs to be made of these officers and reforms on a national level need to be made imo.

    She was sitting down and the officer asked her to move the water, he entirely created that situation and shot her because his ego was insulted.

    The 36-minute video released via the Illinois State Police includes body-camera footage from each of the two Sangamon County sheriff’s deputies who responded to Massey’s house after midnight on July 6 after Massey called 911 to report a possible “prowler” at her home in Springfield, according to a court document filed by prosecutors.

    In the footage, deputy Sean Grayson and another deputy speak calmly with Massey in her home when she goes to the stove to turn off a pot of boiling water. She then picks up the pot and the other deputy steps back, “away from your hot steaming water,” he says.


    “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus,” she says in response.

    “Huh?” the deputy says.

    “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus,” she repeats.

    “You better f**king not or I swear to God I’ll f**king shoot you in the f**king face,” Grayson says.

    He then draws his firearm and points it at her, and she ducks and says, “I’m sorry” while lifting the pot, the video shows.

    “Drop the f**king pot!” both deputies yell.

    Three shots are heard. After a few seconds of silence, one deputy says “shots fired” and calls for emergency medical services.

    “Dude, I’m not taking f**king boiling water to the f**king head. And look, it came right to our feet, too,” Grayson says.


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    Sonya Massey was shot and killed by a responding officer after she called 911, according to officials.
    Ben Crump Law
    The release of the video comes about two weeks after the fatal shooting and just days after Grayson was charged in her death.

    Grayson, 30, was indicted by a grand jury last week on three counts of first-degree murder and one count each of aggravated battery with a firearm and official misconduct. He has entered a not guilty plea and was denied pretrial release, according to court records.

    Massey is one of a number of Black women who have been killed by police in their own homes in recent years, including Breonna Taylor and Atatiana Jefferson. In a news conference Monday afternoon, civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who represents Massey’s family, connected her death to other cases of police violence against Black people across the US.

    “Until we get justice for Sonya Massey, we rebuke this discriminatory criminal justice system in the name of Jesus,” he said.

    Video shows lead-up and aftermath
    Grayson did not activate his body camera until after he fatally shot Massey, according to charging documents. The other deputy had activated his body camera when he first arrived at the scene, the documents state.

    According to footage from the other deputy’s body camera, the incident began with the deputies walking around Massey’s yard and finding a vehicle with broken windows. They then knock on the door and speak with her, and she struggles to understand and answer some questions about the vehicle and about herself.

    As they speak in her living room, the deputies note the pot on the lit stove and one says, “we don’t need a fire while we’re here.” Massey gets up and turns off the stove and the shooting then follows.

    Immediately after the shooting, the video records Grayson telling his partner Massey would not need medical help.

    The other deputy says he’s going to get a medical kit to help, but Grayson responds, “Nah, she’s done. You can go get it but that’s a headshot.”

    “All right, I’m not even gonna waste my med stuff then,” Grayson says.

    Next, Grayson leaves the house and speaks to a group of law enforcement officers outside. “Yeah I’m good, this f**king b*tch is crazy,” he says, according to the footage.

    In the news conference Monday, along with members of her family, Crump said Massey had mental health challenges but was not aggressive toward the deputies.

    “She needed a helping hand,” he said. “She didn’t need a bullet to the face.”

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    James Wilburn, father of Sonya Massey, speaks to reporters in Springfield, Illinois, on Monday, July 22.


    Massey’s father, James Wilburn, said he initially received conflicting information from law enforcement.

    “I was under the impression that a prowler had broken in and killed my baby. Never did they say that it was a deputy-involved shooting until my brother read it on the internet,” Wilburn said at the news conference.

    “We were led to believe that the intruder – or someone from the neighborhood – may have killed her. We were absolutely shocked to find out that it was a deputy who shot her,” Wilburn told CNN’s Laura Coates on Monday night.

    “You’re used to having ‘the talk’ with boys, but now I guess we have to talk to our girls about … their interactions with the police,” Wilburn said.

    Wilburn said that his daughter’s death had left him heartbroken.


    RELATED ARTICLEOpinion: As a father, I’ll be sure my Black daughters get ‘The Talk’

    “Sonya was a daddy’s girl. She never ended a conversation – whether by text or telephone or in person – without saying, ‘Daddy, I love you.’ And that’s the last message I have from my daughter that’s saved on my voicemail, was ‘Daddy, I love you’,” he said.

    Crump told Laura Coates that he expected the release of the video showing the “heinous killing of this innocent woman” to galvanize the community.

    “It’s so senseless. I mean, it is disturbing. This video is reminiscent in the last presidential cycle in 2020 when the George Floyd video, you know, encouraged our community to act.

    “And in this 2024 election I believe this Sonya Massey video is going to encourage our community to act – because Sonya Massey deserved better than this,” Crump said.
     
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    Officials criticize deputy’s actions
    Since the shooting, local and state officials have criticized the deputy’s actions as an unjustified use of deadly force.

    A review of the Illinois State Police investigation into the shooting “does not support a finding that … Grayson was justified in his use of deadly force,” the state’s attorney for the county, John Milhiser, said..

    In a court document filed by the state last week, prosecutors said a “use-of-force” expert had reviewed the body-camera footage and concluded the use of deadly force was not justified.

    “(The expert) likened the scenario to an officer intentionally and unnecessarily putting himself in front of a moving vehicle and then justifying use of force because of fear of being struck,” the prosecutors wrote.

    The sheriff’s office said it has fired Grayson. “It is clear that the deputy did not act as trained or in accordance with our standards,” the office said.

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    Sean Grayson


    CNN experts offered similar analysis.

    “Effective policing comes down to good judgment in highly stressful situations,” said Josh Campbell, CNN security correspondent and former federal agent. “Although being doused with scalding water could warrant the use of deadly force by an officer to stop a threat, in this video we certainly don’t see officers attempting alternative options, such as moving away and creating distance between themselves and Massey.

    “There were a number of ways to avoid this starting with better tactics from the outset,” said CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller, “but even if you forgive that and limit the observations to the last few seconds, there were still options of a calmer dialogue, more distance between the subject and them, a taser rather than a firearm.

    Grayson had worked at six different law enforcement agencies in Illinois since 2020, according to the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board.


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    It is unclear why Grayson changed jobs so frequently and CNN has reached out to the other law enforcement agencies for more information.

    The training and standards board records show his Law Enforcement Certification has since been suspended.

    A petition calling for an investigation into why Sangamon County hired Grayson was circulated at a march and barbecue in Springfield on Monday night, CNN affiliate WICSreported.

    Several hundred people attended the gathering in honor of Massey, WICS said.

    “It was very powerful just seeing all of the people come out from our community. Different ages, different races, different sexual orientations all coming together for one cause, which is to get justice for Sonya Massey,” organizer Tiara Standage told WICS.


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    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/22/us/sonya-massey-police-shooting/index.html
     
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  18. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    He’s already got indicted and charged with 1st degree murder.
     
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  19. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    This ******* cop needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Just don’t riot and burn down everything in the process, we really don’t need that shiit now especially the times that we are in currently.
     
  20. ROCKSS

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    I am so tired of bodycams not being turned on at such a convenient time, they should not be allowed to even turn them off, they should always be on and recording...................this cop is a disgrace, not just to the shield but to the human race.
     

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