1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

DEI must DIE

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 16, 2023.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987
    That was crowdstrike
    Not Microsoft

    it affected Microsoft’s systems

    Like if you downloaded a antivirus program and it screws up your windows 11
    Not windows 11 fault

    this is equivalent to a faulty airbag in a Toyota car but it was manufactured by a third party company , Toyota would make a recall and use a different company that makes airbags

    @basso
    @AroundTheWorld
    @Os Trigonum
    @CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul
    they don’t use DEI in sports
    Or when was the last time you talked to your IT department ?
     
  2. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    32,542
    Likes Received:
    7,752
    From my experience its majority white and Asian male coming from middle to upper class backgrounds.

    This is a process failure. In a lot of smaller startups there is a complete lack of process and gating where individual developers could break things easy and often. CrowdStrike at its size likely has several levels of gating.

    Everyone writes bugs. Software is complex. Barring negligence its just the nature of software developer and modern Agile. Constant tradeoffs are made to dump planning and testing priorities to meet deadlines.

    Its why blame free RCAs and retros are a thing. If there truly is excess incompetence then they will get PIP'd or be the first to go in the next layoff.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987
    @basso
    @Rocket River
    @Salvy
    you forget that these positions are organic meaning people have to want to do them

    how many hot Latino girls tell their parents that want to be a scrum master or debug code for the rest of their lives ?

    yeah


     
  4. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    32,542
    Likes Received:
    7,752
    I think one thing that's relevant is how relatively low the barrier of entry is for a very comfortable middle / upper middle class lifestyle with a LOT of flexibility. There is a lot of organic desire to work in tech due to that alone.

    I agree though at the base level of what the job entails which is why CS program demographics from when I attended reflects more or less the demographics of most workplaces at the engineering level -- but bootcamp candidates pivoting from other industries tend to skew differently demographically.

    These are just my personal anecdotes.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,102
    Likes Received:
    3,755
    No DEI here. Those ladies got their jobs through pure skill
     
    tinman likes this.
  6. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987
    I explained this in the other reply but let’s just talk about the other factor

    there’s no way firing people 3 days ago at Microsoft would affect software or a software patch that took months or longer to develop

    Like for example that dumb Acolyte series
    Firing Kathleen Kennedy now doesn’t fix that series being crap cause it was already made

    @Salvy
     
  7. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987
    I suggest you go to a tech conference or just peek inside a computer science class

    You can see the demographics there

    Then go to a marketing convention

    there’s going to be a difference in race and sex and age
     
    Bandwagoner likes this.
  8. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    32,542
    Likes Received:
    7,752
    I mean yeah that’s exactly what I mentioned. I work in the industry lol.

    there’s a difference in desire for the underlying work and those that want to pivot for the comp and perks of the industry.

    I’m not disagreeing with you here. I’ve been to conferences and have a CS degree.
     
    tinman likes this.
  9. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
  10. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    It's a self selection filter. Out of the 200 people in my MechE undergrad class about 15 girls and I felt sorry for them because of how much they would get crept on by people like you.

    Girls don't like geeked out male dominated communities because jrt feel like half the dudes are eye ****ing them while they try to do their hw.

    And these girls often were the best students because the type of person that fights through that type of creepiness to accomplish their intellectual dreams are more driven than the average dude who gets into a engineering major.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
  12. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,543
    Likes Received:
    17,503
  13. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987
  14. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    18,090
    Likes Received:
    8,535
  15. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    64,999
    Likes Received:
    32,703
    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    Rocket River
     
    fchowd0311 likes this.
  16. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987
    AroundTheWorld likes this.
  17. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    Not true.
     
    tinman likes this.
  18. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987
    DEI means non white people
    But specifically woke whitey is included
    Meaning unskilled and always victimized
    Plus always identifying with another gender
    And pretending to be pro Palestinian and realizing their flag is not rainbow colored
     
  19. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,424
    Likes Received:
    22,560
    Nothing wrong with DEI. Find me one example of a DEI hire that failed at their job and I'll give you 10 examples of non DEI hires that failed at their job.

    I have a lot of success and I enjoy working with people of diverse backgrounds and skill sets. In my experience, teams that are completely homogenous are generally not effective.
     
    Xopher and fchowd0311 like this.
  20. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,117
    Likes Received:
    46,987

Share This Page