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Who will replace Biden?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 18, 2024.

  1. Amiga

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    Biden would easily lose to any normal human.
     
  2. AB

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    He is not. That is what makes this whole situation annoying and frustrating.

    If they felt so strongly about Biden, go talk to him in private and convince him. The democratic party is creating a crisis. Media is hyperventilating over nonsense. Lots of false equivalencies floating around and normalizing the unconstitutional behavior . Instead of making him strong they made him weaker than he is.

    The democratic party is losing moral high ground by second. It is so disappointing to me. This should have been an election over legislative record. There is so much accomplished.

    This election has turned into what majority feels.. Teflon Don or Toxic Don!!! Nothing else
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Many Democratic leaders have asked him in private first. It is only that starting with House Representatives many who aren’t in leadership spoke out publicly and now every Democrat is expected to take a side.

    None of this is unconstitutional, so far. saying a candidate shouldn’t run and having a candidate end their campaign has nothing to do with the Constitution.
     
  4. Amiga

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    Biden's big failure at the debate is the cause of this "crisis". I'm not sure what you mean by moral high ground. To me, it's a democratic high ground that people are willing to speak up and consider alternatives, instead of being so tied to a candidate that they won't even ask questions or won't allow others to ask questions.

    Unfortunately, elections aren't just about your record and what was accomplished. The economy is great, full employment, crime is declining at a record pace, incomes are growing, the wealth gap is closing, the US is not at war (for the first time in 20 years), etc. All of that helps. But election is also about the future, and most unfortunately, it's about political propaganda and the success of that.

    A significant part of Biden's coalition is the anti-Don coalition. These are also some of the people telling him to step aside as they are afraid he can't win.
     
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    I fully agree that Biden has a very strong record and on record this should be easy.

    I’ll say it again you have a president who passed multiple bipartisan infrastructure bills against a former president who had multiple “infrastructure weeks”.

    We don’t live in a culture where just records matter. We live in a culture where perception often trumps facts (pun very intended).
     
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    True. It is not unconstitutional if we genuinely understand the situation. But it can be easily played by false equivalencies and we already see it. I believe there was post around here equalizing attack on capitol to this. I am hearing similar stuff from people I talk around. The media is in hyperdrive.

    Moral high ground might be a wrong choice of word. That did not sound right after I said it. It was more about the promise in stability of governance offered by democrats in contrast to Trump
    By going public, they are creating a scenario. If the debate performance is defining him to be incapable for next four years, why is it not a fair question for next four months? There may be a valid answer but it is a fair question. So the dialogue for next several days will be about Biden's current capability. If this were happening before primaries, I would have been cheering the process as well.

    I strongly believe Biden is not as incapable as being portrayed by republicans. I am still in disbelief this is really happening at this time.
     
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    I think our society is poisoned by nostalgia. The boomers yearn for the 80s when they took the reins of power and become immensely powerful and wealthy. We didn’t worry about global warming or plastics, we just lived in an era of unfettered capitalism. The disenfranchised deserved it. Homosexuality was shunned because of AIDS. Multiculturalism was an idea for Sesame Street, Communists, and Star Trek.
    White people were the ruling class. Jewish people were academics or artists. We had yet to complete the deindustrialization of the 90s and 2000s.

    The world moved on and we either live today and plan for tomorrow or accept our inevitable fall. Trump represents a reality that no longer exists and is no longer feasible to return to.
     
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    you are only saying this because hulk hogan took his shirt off at the RNC
     
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    Hulk Hogan is the physical embodiment of the 1980s.
     

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