Jalen Green Sengun Tari Cam Whitmore Will be used in trade(s) Amen Thompson (might never be a 3-pt shooter) Jabari Smith (6'11" stretch 5 might soon be very common.... replaceable) Reed Sheppard (might never be good enough defensively)
That's why I addressed it already in my previous post. It was not GM-speak. Maybe watch it to understand. Yes I do believe a GM will not go out in the media and say "we will NOT trade x player" while he's considering trading the player. That screws him whether a trade happens or not. GM's just generally say some vague stuff when they want to lie. It's extremely rare for a GM under any circumstances to say "absolutely under no circumstances will we trade such and such player". They only do that for stars they're sure they want to keep unless a mind blowing offer comes along. There's no smoke here, just mirrors.
Hype machine 9/11 timeline: Sengun gets hurt and the Rockets go on another win streak. Jalen makes all-star and they trade Sengun/picks for KD. Reed Sheppard is just ok. Clingan wins ROTY.
I would hate it because I don't want Sengun traded but boy would that create some chaos on this board.
Way more sense…might be a good idea to find out if Tari will play more games than he misses first, if Cam can ever wrap his head around the concept of team play, It will eventually really matter IMO regardless of his individual talents, Amen,can he develop an outside shot. If Adams is healthy,he might have get more minutes than people envision.
They’re all tradable if a star is available, but I see sengun, amen, cam and Tari being here in the long term. I think green and Jabari are going to get traded. Sengun, Amen and Cam have all star potential. Reed Sheppard is a rookie. People have unrealistic expectations for him, he’ll be lucky play 15 minutes coming off the bench. He’ll be okay, but nothing special. He has the lowest upside out of the seven.
I don't understand how someone can say Can has star potential but not Jalen? Jalen due to circumstance is as of right now the most likely to be traded. Because no one is worried right now about extending Cam to a max extension, is the only reason why he's relatively safe compared to Jalen in not being traded. That is literally the only reason. There is more time for Cam to not have to worry about having to open the wallet. In fact Sengun has a higher chance right now of being traded than Cam because of this reason but out of the entire core 7 as of now Jalen is the most likely to be traded even though arguably he has the highest ceiling of the core 7. It's near that time to make the tough decision about Jalen.
Jabari/Amen/Reed are locks. I'd say Sengun after that and Tari because he seems like he'd do the Brunson thing and take a team friendly deal.
Personally I think if Green is worth less than the max - let's say $30m/season - we would still sign him. I think people are expecting a black and white outcome and that's not always the case. What if he puts up: 23/5/4 45/36/83 Same defense as last season These are not max numbers but they're a starting SG. What do we do in this scenario? I bet if they can snap him up at $30m/season they would do it and then seek an upgrade. Could still do two max contracts after that I believe but my numbers may need tweaking. Anyways all moot because he's going to be great next season. Signs are there.
Those are very similar numbers to Ant's third season.l and he got a max extension and quite easily also with no debate or questioning if they should. Any plays better defense so maybe that accounts for it but I would say if he puts up those numbers next season and the Rockets win let's say 50 games, he's getting the max based off those stats. I would say if he hovers around 20 ppg but on like 58% ts and good defense is where they might extend below the max.
I don't even have to be offended you didn't include Jalen as a Jalen stan. Believing that Reed Shepard is a lock relative to Sengun is absolutely moon man thinking. The dude hasn't played a NBA game yet. Talk about premature ejaculation.
Funny coming from someone who was definitely crowning a guy that hadn't played a single NBA game as the team's franchise player.... Have you learned your lesson and opted to take more conservative stances in the future.... or is this merely lashing out because your "franchise player" is on his way out?
Yeah agree about Ant's defense. He also showed a more linear growth since his rookie season which can add some more trust to the contract negotiations. I would almost prefer the second version of Jalen you offered but if it were 20 pts on 60 ts% and good defense. That pretty much guarantees he'll have a max worthy 5th season when he would be getting the max. Especially with the benefit of an additional summer. Easy to gradually add 2-3 more ppg the following seasons to get him to star level when you're working with such a resilient and efficient 2-way player as a base. That might be a safer investment. If we can get that for below the max I'd be stoked, would be a bargain in the future.
You are very wrong on this one. Amen will not be traded. The rockets love him and rightfully so.. Jabari’s defense and 3 Pt shooting is not easily replaceable but he may have to be traded at some point because of salary cap. Cam and Jalen much more likely to be traded. Tari is a career role player that will never command the max, so yeah he probably won’t be traded.
Jalen Green and Cam Whitmore are the types the NBA are looking for: *Facilitators that drive and draw multiple defenders *Pass and get 4-6 assists per game *Rebound 4-6 rebounds per game *1.5 or more steals per game *SCORE AT ALL 3 LEVELS : RIM/MID-RANGE/3-Pt AREA *Hit FT's at a decent clip *Gets deflections/Blocks *Run in Transition Offense (quicker team Pace) *Run in Transition Defense (quicker team Pace) *Tools to be decent to good defenders *Size for "SWITCHABLE" defense Cam Whitmore and Jalen Green will hit all those marks soon and will be every bit of what the Rockets will be looking for in a trade. Their paydays are spread out. _______________ Jabari will want a max right after Jalen Green and Sengun get theirs. Team will hold out for an established star vs paying Jabari. As you said Tari Eason won't ask for that type of max money and you don't need to pay both Jabari and Tari who can both pretty much do the same. Plus if you open your eyes you will see a ton of 6'7" to 6'11" stretch 4's and 5's coming down the pike. Near year Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey are spearheading the group. AAU and high schools are training the bigger kids to be dribbling and shooting threats at a younger age. Will be available unless he improves his ball handling skills and becomes invaluable as a driver/facilitator. Amen is a talent but mostly defenders are betting ng weeded out of the league as more rounded players are up and coming. Thybulle has had to learn to shoot for distance to remain relevant. I don't have the faith in Amen ever learning to shoot the ball. Even if Amen does, it may be years.....I've been in sitting on Sengun, Josh Christopher, TyTy to shoot for average for about 3 years. JC might have finally arrived (for Miami). Amen can be really good and has value......enough potential to bring back a star caliber player. But as Jerry Glanville once said about his team and what he thought about all their potential: "Potential gets coaches fired!" With Jalen Green, Sengun and a 3rd star.......Amen doesn't get his big payday. Casualty of timing just like Josh Christopher.
