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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

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    Didn’t Joementia just said he’ll cap the rent at $55 yesterday? Need a confirmation from you Dems in here.
     
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    Biden has truly lost the Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/07/17/biden-campaign-age-honesty/

    Opinion The problem with Biden’s candidacy isn’t age. It’s honesty.
    Biden’s continuing reelection bid is undermining Democrats’ claims to be the party of facts and truth.
    Charles Lane
    July 17, 2024 at 5:33 p.m. EDT

    MILWAUKEE — The Republicans gathered here are walking on air, as you would expect given the extraordinary events of the past month, which include their nominee, former president Donald Trump, surviving a close call with an assassin’s bullet.

    Meanwhile, their opponents, the Democrats, continue to break the first law of holes: When you’re in one, stop digging. President Biden’s stumbling performance in the June 27 debate with Trump spectacularly reinforced the top voter concern about him — his age, 81, and fitness for another term.

    Yet members of Team Biden have responded by calling in a backhoe. From the president on down, they insist he’s in it to win it. The numerous Democrats who say otherwise are being politely told to stick with the program, except when they’re being rudely told to “cut that crap out,” as Biden reportedly barked at Rep. Jason Crow (Colo.) during a recent Zoom meeting.

    The damage to Democratic prospects is not just a matter of the president’s repeated memory lapses and confusion; his weakened speaking voice; and his flashes of inappropriate anger such as the one Crow experienced.

    Much worse is the harm to the Democrats’ brand as the party of facts, truth and science.

    Republicans were supposed to be the party of Big Lies, the biggest being that Biden stole the 2020 election. Yet accepting Biden’s insistence on running requires Democrats to believe, or pretend to believe, a falsehood: that he’s sharp, fit and ready to govern another four years.

    This is not to suggest moral equivalency between gaslighting about Biden’s age-related deficiencies and Trump’s lies about the 2020 election, which led to violence on Jan. 6, 2021.

    Still, as whoppers go, “there is no reason to worry about Biden” is a good-size one, as confirmed by both basic medical knowledge regarding octogenarians and the evidence of ordinary people’s senses.

    Above all, Biden’s continued candidacy implicitly discredits the main Democratic campaign theme: Democracy itself is on the line in 2024. Dire warnings about what will happen if Trump regains the White House can’t be both (a) valid and (b) consistent with knowingly running a flawed opponent against him.

    There was plenty of time for Democrats to start organizing alternatives after their surprisingly good showing in the 2022 midterms. They neglected to do so, probably because of inertia, combined with an expectation that the GOP would not be able to bounce back from 2022, either under Trump or some other standard-bearer such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. They assumed, wrongly, that criminal and civil cases would weaken Trump.

    Now, a few family and staff enablers are reportedly reinforcing the president’s instincts, which are those of a career politician loath to surrender the ultimate prize.

    Biden has taken to speaking of himself this way: “Name me a foreign leader who thinks I’m not the most effective leader in the world on foreign policy. Tell me! Tell me who the hell that is!” he reportedly said on that Zoom call with Crow and other moderate Democratic House members.

    They are trying to preempt the Dump Biden efforts, most recently by announcing his nomination could soon become a fait accompli, through a virtual vote of convention delegates before they assemble in person in Chicago on Aug. 19.

    The loyalists might truly believe they are doing the right thing. It would be messy to replace Biden at this late date; a successor would not necessarily be more successful against Trump.

    As optimists contend, Biden’s standing in national polls did not crater after June 27. He could win, despite everything, just as Democratic House and Senate candidates blew up the conventional wisdom about a “red wave” by winning in 2022.

    But happy talk about Biden’s polls — some coming from Biden himself — overlooks the facts that major swings are rare in a deeply polarized electorate and that several post-debate polls showed downward ticks in his support.

    Team Biden called for last month’s debate hoping that it would deliver his campaign a positive jolt; thus, bragging that it didn’t hurt, that much, is basically just spin. He continues to trail, as he has for most of the past year, in battleground states that will decide the electoral college outcome.

    That data point comes both from published polls and from internal poll results newly leaked as part of a pressure campaign being waged by Democrats who want Biden out. Alas, indirect, back-channel tactics are no substitute for a united, forthright intervention. More party heavyweights would have to do what Rep. Adam Schiff (Calif.) did on Wednesday: cease hinting and openly call for Biden to quit the race.

    Again, if the Dump Biden movement fails and Biden wins anyway, the Democrats who called for a different candidate can cheerfully feast on crow at a post-inauguration banquet. If Biden does stay, though, and Trump defeats him, history could be unkind indeed to the insiders who have not only reinforced Biden’s stubbornness since June 27 but also spent so much effort suppressing honest discussion before that. Along with this president’s legacy, they should be thinking of their own.

    Opinion by Charles Lane
    Charles Lane is a deputy opinion editor and columnist for The Post.

     
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    Nevermind, I found it
     
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    Uh oh, he tested positive for Covid.
     
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    hmm. if a doctor tells him it's long covid . . . he could bow out gracefully
     
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    those folks better wash their hands
     
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    Bro is in Vegas with Covid
     
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    RIP Biden. Long live Kamala!
     
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    Needs to place a bet on Trump before he departs.
     
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    Lol
     
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    You can’t make this up even if you tried. Damn!
     
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    It makes no sense to remove Biden at this point. Take the DNC out back after elections, give a fairwell hug and send it on its way. Sleepy Joe can spend the remainder of his life wherever he sees fit.
    Harris is an idiot. She is so stupid that she hasn't a clue with what she is about to face. It's all downhill for her. If she left VP. She could still have a career. Look at crooked Hillary. She is such a loser the Democrats don't even give her a voice anymore.
     
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    Biden is doing a 30 day quarantine from everyone but Jill and Hunter. Including digital communication.
     
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