“Archetype” is such a hollow word if not backed up by (at least some) actually good basketball skills.
It's crazy to me that Edey is older than Alpi though. Youth really should help your stock but raw measurables are still the biggest contributor to draft value. That kind of explains how Sarr went to high even though his actual stats were so mediocre.
You can argue the other way around too. Giannis, Kawhi, PG all examples of raw players that developed into stars. Even look at the recent Rockets draft, going for measurables with Green, Amen, Garuba. There's not one correct way to draft players, cause most human beings are far from finished products at age 19.
I mean I get it for a team like Washington that really has nothing and is looking to build something. I would have still maybe looked at Castle or Buzelis as better upside picks but I get it. But for a team like us who just went 41-41, I don't think we should ever look at a project player with that high of a pick. Wanted a guy who has actually shown something and is not all operating off hypotheticals, which thankfully we drafted my number 1 on the board so it all worked out. Also re: Edey, he dominated against college players who'll tend to be a bit smaller, I think watching 18 year olds dominate in pro leagues against guys who are average age 25-30 impresses me more generally. I was bouncing off the walls when we picked Sengun, couldn't believe he fell to 16. I actually kind of like the Edey pick for the Grizzlies though, I'm not sure Edey is ever an every day starter but I think he could be valuable
I don't think there's one way to draft players either, nor do I think players are finished products at 19. I was just explaining why someone like Alpi was undervalued in the draft. He was listed at a short height for a center, couldn't shoot, and seen as a defensive liability. Those kinds of prospects typically don't go top 3 in a draft. Clearly his upside was not limited by his measurables because he's the best player in that draft class so far.
No one is Wemby. Sarr can be as good or better than all the others you mentioned. Clingan and Edey will be just fine, I'm sure they'll play some amazing drop coverage.
You're high as a kite as usual Now Sarr is "projecting to be an elite defender, DPOY level impact" I haven't heard something so ridiculous
I mean, what's the list of undersized center prospects with no shooting and seen as defensive liability becoming stars? even if you just limit the list to undersized centers, in the past decade the list is basically Draymond and Al Horford? And Horford went 3rd. Also Favors and Kwame Brown were both undersized centers who can't shoot and went top 3. NBA teams drafts are more diverse than you think.
At least his jump shot looks serviceable. I'd guess if you're 7 foot you can always work within 5 feet of the basket and earn a paycheck in todays NBA. Makes me wonder why so many teams look for unicorns and why so many young big men choose to have expanded games? Curious huh?
Way too early to call him a bust. Looks the defensive part but he’s a center masquerading as PF right now.
I'm not sure where you're going with this. Those guys weren't seen as defensive liabilities, some weren't even considered centers at the time of their draft. Kwame wasn't even undersized. And they were all viewed as decent athletes at the very worst. Just because a center is undersized does not mean they are seen as a defensive liability. I think Sengun's weaknesses were overemphasized because of how perimeter oriented today's game is. You're bringing up a bunch of guys that were drafted 15-20+ years ago, pre three-point revolution. Centers weren't expected to shoot on offense and switch on defense back then. Want to bring up Shelden Williams too? He was 6'9" and drafted #5 in 2006. So analogous to Alpi, especially with his defensive weaknesses at Duke. It's fine if you don't like my answer, but maybe you should have a crack at that guy's question then. Why did Sengun drop to 16th in his draft despite being Turkish league MVP while Sarr went #2 averaging 10/4 in the NBL?
I think Sarr is going to be a fine player, if he has the desire. Way too soon to call anyone a bust. Hell it’s too soon to call Jalen a bust. I didn’t even know who Ant was a couple of years ago. He does give off some Wood vibes to me. Hope it’s just a maturity thing for Sarr’s sake. For the Rockets sake, I hope all the rookies suck other than ours.
Bulk him up and have him watch tapes of Tyson Chandler.. Tell him leave those 3s in the rearview.. Won't be a franchise player but won't be a bust either