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  1. Andre0087

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    For clarification purposes I’m talking about a 10kw generator/soft start/plumbing/interlock/inlet not 10 grand by itself, that’s ludicrous.
     
  2. Sajan

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    follow the generator to gas hookup...it should be obvious..
     
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    Yes, 10kw. I wasn't referring to 10,000
     
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    How many children on how many stationary bikes would it take to run a 2 ton AC and refrigerator?
     
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  7. Mango

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    Residential Propane Delivery

    Scroll down some and notice the large tank with the red cap/top.

    if something like this isn't happening for you, then your generator is likely using Natural Gas.


    The person paying the bills would know who the supplier/vendor is of the gas for the stove. Is there a gas meter on the premises?
     
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    I just checked the bills (normally don't really look at them). Looks like I am only paying for electricity and water. So I guess there must be a propane tank somewhere. No idea how I would check that. OK yes found a document, it's a gas tank...
     
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  10. krosfyah

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    I still don't have power. o_O But I slept in my 75degree bedroom last night. ;)

    I didn't size mine to run HVAC. We made the choice to buy a room AC for the bedroom so we can sleep at night. Totally works. But since it's modular, I can always add more batteries. Currently, it cuts over in 20milliseconds after grid down so I never lost the fridge, internet, TV, security cams, and some lights on all floors. We don't run our microwave, washer/dryer, central HVAC, and other super high draw appliances. If you want all the creature comforts, plan to deal with the cost and/or hassle of big ass generator.

    Regarding my generator, I have a small 2200watt. I turn it off at night so the batteries run down to about 50% by morn. The gas generator tops me off back to 100% by early afternoon. However, I am frustrated with it as it has misleading advertising since each outlet tops at 1100 watts. So kids, read the fine print! I will be upgrading my generator so I can recharge faster when I find a good price. No urgency.

    As for the Bluetti batteries, works like a champ. I will be adding one or two more batteries when I can get them on sale (Prime Day?). If you buy, let me know and I can send you a referral link, which I think gets you an addition 5% off. I also have an electrician that can help you if you want the house connection. That said, any electrician can put in a 30amp or 50amp hookup. But I installed a subpanel that splits out 10 'emergency' circuits and can perpetually stay active even if you leave on vacation and don't want your fridge or security cams to die. That requires a little more planning with the electrician so my guy has a good handle on how to plan for that.

    One problem with gas generators is the WAF, or Wife Acceptance Factor. If you are around, she's probably fine with it but good luck if you happen to be away. The WAF is high with the Bluetti as it covers 'most' power outages without any intervention in ~20ms. In multi-day outages, I can drag out the gas generator at my leisure.
     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    In desperate times, what do you really need to run off a gennie?

    Window units + fans as needed, I've got 2 in boxes outside for whenever I need them (no reason to do the whole house, cool the rooms you're using)
    Fridge/Freezer
    Stovetop
    Water heater
    ....?
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Love it.

    aka the "Camping Cohesive Quotient"
     
  13. Mango

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    Where houses are close enough for the Natural Gas Supplier to profitably run pipe, then that is the normal way things are done.

    For those living in more remote areas that aren't profitable for a Natural Gas Supplier to profitably run pipe, then the large tank on premises to be supplied via a truck is the expected way. I am used to seeing the large tanks above ground and not familiar with them being buried inground. Conversion of the large tanks to BBQ smokers/pits is somewhat common.

    Since you appear to live in an area with sufficient housing density for Natural Gas distribution to make sense, you probably are connected to Natural Gas.

    If your stove is using gas, then you are getting it supplied for free? Are your water heaters gas or electric?
     
  14. Andre0087

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    Water heater? It's already hot enough if your builder's hated repairmen and stuck it in the attic.
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    OK, hell if I know. Only times I've dealt with this up here is when power's out and the pipes are frozen so it don't matter anyway

    I was just thinking out loud.
     
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    I just found an old e-mail by the former property manager to a company called Amerigas, asking them to transfer the account of the previous (deceased) house owner (his family are billionaires or close to it, the property manager manages several of their properties, this is only one of them) to us.

    That Amerigas company never reacted apparently (neither did I follow up), so I just called them. They found the old account and said there is a 1,000 gallon buried propane gas tank on the property. Someone will come next week to do a safety check and then they will put a sensor on there and we will set it to auto-fill, so that once it goes below a certain level, they will automatically come and fill it up again. That way, I don't have to think about it.

    Looks like we didn't use 800 gallons of gas in 2 1/2 years (since we bought the house). But it would sure have sucked to want to use the gas generator when a hurricane comes and be out of gas!

    So I am grateful for this thread.

    Next thing I now want to figure out is how long 800 gallons of gas could power that gas generator when necessary...
     
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  17. Buck Turgidson

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    You have ~1000 gallons of explosives buried under your property and you've never heard about it until now?
     
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    Never thought about it. Only 800 max though, I think, if it's a 1,000 gallon tank, they are only allowed to fill it 80 %.
     
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    It'll depend on how much power you're using and what size generator (48kw, 60kw, or 80kw). The pdf link you posted of on Generac has a chart. Fuel consumption ranges from around 3 gal/hr for 48kw one at 25% load to 10 gal/hr for the 80kw one at 100% load.

    So with 800 gallons of LPG, I'd say you have at least a week's worth of fuel, multiple weeks if you conserve it slightly.
     
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  20. Amiga

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    LP Consumption - 50% (gal/hr): 4.16

    192 hours at 50% load (24kW). 24kW is massive, but hey, who am I to judge the secret underground rave cave you're clearly hiding.
     
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