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2024 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Apr 4, 2024.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Have you ever seen Dusty and Grimace in the same room?
     
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    Math checks out
     
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    Rangers lost. Had 12 hits but only scored 2 runs.

    Orioles on the other hand had 14 hits and scored 11 runs.
     
  5. Stephen66

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    Holy Sh**
     
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    So many people here swore Snell and Montgomery were the missing pieces and worth the investment.

    Dunno how strongly the front office considered them, but sure glad we didn't throw more money into the trash can.
     
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    Might have gone differently if we pair those guys with the best pitching coaches in baseball.....
     
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    Yeah; I'd be willing to wager this season is the "real" Vlad Guerrero - and he's having a pretty damn good year: 25-30 HRs; ~30 2B; ~75 BB; Ks are ticking up - but, again, he's chasing more than he ever has - and perhaps a better staff/FO can get him to stop that and/or being in a better line-up will equal more mistakes.

    Dude hits the ball *hard,* and, again... he's only 25.
     
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  10. Joe Joe

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    Baseball isn't about being perfect. I know I really liked Snell. Don't recall what the offers were, but I'm a sucker for pitchers that strike out batters. Not sure what Snell's injury issue is, but if the medicals come up fine (assuming not hurt for season) and Crane is willing to pay whatever he's paid, I wouldn't mind adding him at the trade deadline.

    Caveat: I've not paid attention to the Giants at all this year and assume the high ERA is mostly injury and bad luck.
     
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  11. Supermac34

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    He's having a very good year in a year when offense is near all time lows for a variety of reasons.
     
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    I suggested trading framber during the off season thread and signing one of them lol.
     
  13. SamCassell

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    You don't just bad luck your way into a 9.51 ERA and a 1.94 WHIP. He walks too many batters. Always has. Guys are hitting .415 off his fastball. He was as lucky (batter ball wise) last year, as he's been unlucky this year. Ultimately he's a mediocre starter overall who doesn't pitch many innings because he lacks command of the strike zone.
     
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  14. Tuckmose

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    Shout out to Crane for wasting 30 million dollars next year on Montero and Abreu when Bregman, Tucker, and Framber are all expiring.

    Resigning Tucker or Framber puts the team over the tax for a year because of it, can't wait for that to be an excuse as to why both walked.
     
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    Tucker and Framber aren't expiring
     
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    Must have confused Arb 2 with Arb 3.
     
  17. J.R.

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    Was that already 10 years ago? Damn.



    But why 2017? Jeff Luhnow, the Astros’ general manager from 2011-20 and architect of the rebuild, said he projected the team being .500 by 2015, chasing a playoff spot the next year but not until 2019 was he expecting a pennant or possible championship.

    “I’d spent a significant amount of time embedded with Luhnow and other members of the Astros front office in June of 2014 to report the story, and the year 2017 kept coming up in conversation — so I felt it was an internal target year, even if they wouldn’t officially admit it,” Reiter said. “Then I looked at how old the players who would likely be centerpieces of an actual contender would be, and 2017 felt right: Carlos Correa would be 22, for example, and George Springer 27. The biggest thing, though, was that I fully believed in the promise of what they were doing.

    “I was thrilled that our team was on the cover of Sports Illustrated,” Luhnow said. “It’s very rare for a team with so many losing seasons in a row to be highlighted in any positive way. So overall, I was happy. I had no idea that there would be a prediction or that it would be on the cover but to be honest, even though it was a year or two earlier than I would have liked, it set a new bar for us as a goal.”

    A wave of bad publicity engulfed the Astros in the weeks that followed the cover, “like the SI jinx had gone into hyperdrive,” Reiter said. First, the team’s internal database was hacked, with notes of confidential trade discussions with other teams posted online by Deadspin. The Astros’ A-ball stadiums in Davenport, Iowa, and Lancaster, Calif., were flooded and caught on fire, respectively. Then the team failed to sign first overall draft pick Brady Aiken after contentious negotiations surrounding the left-hander’s elbow injury.

    “The darkest hours are right before daybreak … that’s how 2014 felt with everything that happened,” Luhnow said. “Thankfully, we had support from ownership and we stuck to our plan, made adjustments where necessary and it started working. In sports, the highs are only high because of the lows and everyone in sports lives low moments and has bad streaks. That’s the nature of sports but it makes you appreciate winning that much more.”

    “The Astros became relevant again not because of the SI article but because of Jose Altuve, Dallas Keuchel, Marwin Gonzalez, Colby Rasmus, Evan Gattis, George Springer and Carlos Correa, among others,” Luhnow said. “We had a fun team, a team with personality, and a team that was winning games. We always said internally that nobody was going to truly engage until we started winning.”

    Second baseman Jose Altuve, the only player who’s remained with the team since the SI cover came out, said he couldn’t recall his reaction from when it came out.

    “It was a long time ago,” Altuve said. “A lot of stuff’s happened here.”
     
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  18. J.R.

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    I thought there was suppose to be inflation...

    MILWAUKEE — Dallas Keuchel believes he still has plenty to offer a major league team.

    The Milwaukee Brewers are hoping the 2015 AL Cy Young Award winner can provide a boost to their injury-riddled pitching staff now that he's worked his way back into the majors. They sent cash to the Seattle Mariners on Tuesday to acquire Keuchel, who had spent all of this season in the minors. The price was $1.

    https://komonews.com/sports/sports-...l-milwaukee-brewers-cy-young-award-winner-mlb
     
  20. Snake Diggit

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    One thing I think is interesting is that for all the talk of Houston being on the back end of their competitive window, they only have one contributing position player (Altuve) past their prime age and only 3 pitchers (JV, Pressly, and Montero). 4 of their top 9 producers in position player fWAR are 27 or younger, and 6 of their top 13 producers in pitching fWAR are 27 or younger.
     

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