Listen to yourself. You're literally sitting here going: why didn't Jalen Green improve his defense, rebounding, passing, shooting and finishing within a the early part of a single season after we botched his development for 2 years? Also regarding this outdated comment that keeps floating around about SG's being able to shoot, it is really stupid. The most important shot a SG takes is driving to the rim and finishing. You're parading around some gimmick as if it's meaningful.
You don't have to beg to disagree. You can just disagree. What you mean is you beg to differ. Please tell us the huge improvements you saw from Jabari and Tari under Silas. Jabari had a good month to end Silas' final season, but you don't believe in good months being sustainable do you?
Funny how quality players didn't need that excuse... they just went out and played well no matter who was the coach. I think what matters is that the time for excuses is over. If Jalen is still the same awful player this season that he's been his whole career the Rockets will move on. I get that you think it's okay for a shooting guard to be one of the worst shooters in the NBA... but it's not. It's now or never time.
Being able to shoot consistently is not a gimmick. Not if you are talking about being a great player.
I don't disagree with that at all. I just don't agree with the contention that a star SG can't be better at getting to the rim than making 3's. I don't agree with the contention that if your SG is not good at converting on 7+ 3PA's a game before the age of 22, they are doomed. See: - Jimmy Butler, a bad shooter most of his career - Anthony Edwards shot like 1% better from 3 in his first 3 seasons compared to Green's first 3 seasons (and Green had more attempts) This is cross-position as well. We've had DPOY C's who can't rebound (JJJ). We've had MVP forwards who can't shoot (Giannis). We have a wing who was said to be clumsy and have poor handles just win the Finals MVP. We have a star scoring C who can't post up (Wemby). The idea that SG's are only supposed to shoot well as a priority over everything else is a very old idea. Jalen Green was always supposed to be more about his first step than about his shooting. As far as his shooting goes, he just needs to clean up those mechanics and take 4-5 attempts like Morant, rather than trying to be Steph Curry out there with his 7-8 attempts.
Did I catch you before you pointed to Jabari's nice little month? haha They didn't improve anything in those two seasons and everyone knows it. You're just worried if you count Jabari's month then you have to count Jalen's month.
What a crock of BS. You are crazy if you think Jabari and Sengun haven't improved since they came into the league. Look at their stats from year one to year two.
If Jalen isnt Greensanity to start the season, wonder how long it will take for Reed's minutes exceed Jalen's?
It won't matter how well anyone else shoots or improves. Jalen will always be Ime's starter, and he knows it. Hopefully, he can work in some of FVV's minutes, and take over in a year or two as PG.
If a team like Portland traded last nights 14 plus a 2029 first to Washington for Dani Avdija, I wonder if we could get a similar return for Green. This dude is a gimmick, I’m done with him.
It's just volume. So you're saying if Jalen took fewer shots in his first two seasons and was more efficient that would be better - which is not true. He'd be the exact same player just doing fewer difficult things. Jabari had ONE season before Udoka. If he improved, it's because of Udoka. Tari has not improved anything since the first couple of months of his NBA career. If you're counting these micro-improvements, then it's ridiculous that you are saying Green hasn't improved. You can't have it both ways.
If Jalen chucked less and was more efficient he'd be a MUCH better player, but he wouldn't put up the raw numbers that impress some. Jalen is the same mindless chucker he was the day he was drafted, you can count some improvement on defense but he's still really terrible on that end and I think a lot of it was Ime working to limit the damage Jalen does on that end. This is the year he needs to show he's an NBA caliber starter or he's done.
Who improved their shooting percentages more under Udoka? Jabari went from 40.8% FG to 45.4% and 30.7% 3PT to 36.3% Jalen went from 41.7% FG to 42.3% and 33.8% 3PT to 33.2%
You're ignoring defense and you're changing the subject because you misspoke. The improvement did not happen under Silas, that's the point you were challenging.
How could Jabari's numbers improve under Silas when he only played one year under him? Improve from what? As for Sengun, yes, his shooting percentages improved his second year under Silas.
