lol at suddenly forgetting Harden & the owner pushing for trades for players with Morey as if equivalent to this and excuses Stone somehow.
look at his non draft moves. they all suck. he drafted players in top 4 which 90% of fans on this site could competently do. I'll give him/Tilman credit for Ime but not credit for signing FVV and Brooks to inflated deals. every other move has been terrible. once we get out of this mode of drafting high picks, we will all see how terrible he really is at extracting value in trades
Remember Stone is the one that was willing to put his career on the line for Kevin Porter Jr and prioritize him over Sengun.
My argument is that Stone has no skill at his job. He's good at tanking and drafting top 4. You and I can do that. extracting value in trades from other smart GMs is a totally different thing and he's been terrible at it.
Glass half empty and negative agendas. The consensus has been it was a great move to improve our situation long term. In addition, we won 20 more games than last season, the highest record improvement in the NBA over any other team, with a 19-22-year-old core of 6 players and two vet starters. If this were a test, if someone scored a 95 some would be criticizing the five points rather than looking at the consistent A's. We're in a great position for the future.
@jim1961 obviously, I respect y’all’s opinions. However, I just firmly believe that Brooklyn would is made that trade, even if we wouldn’t have given them. These draft picks back. That was the best offer they were going to get no matter what. I personally just have a hard time seeing them turn down the picks from New York and trying to play three consecutive 45 to 50 wins seasons just because they don’t want to give up lottery picks to Houston. I understand not wanting to add any more young players to the team, but let’s say that that draft pick ends up number four next year. No team in their right mind would trade that pick for the same future assets we received. I wasn’t really thinking about picking Cooper flag next year. I was thinking about that being our best opportunity to combine assets and pick up a true star acquiring this guy in the summer of 2025.
while I am Shirley unprepared to parse the value out of this transaction I just don’t see…how ‘we’ can see the squad they roll out at onset of fall camp Or Opening Night Or the deadline IMO - Nets will not match recent vintage Pistons etc. or, mebbe they will. How the hey can ‘we’ project 27ish hours or 168 hours or…
You're a man who knows they look like a idiot, but thinks other ppl don't see it. Non draft moves like FVV & Dillon Brooks? Both those signings still have value, especially Fred. Jeff Green & Holiday were also good signings. As far as his draft record, you do realize he put us in a position to get top 4 lottery picks right? The same Harden trade idiots like you criticized gave us Green,Sengun,Jabari, Thompson & Cam. You just exposed of low IQ Stone's critics really are
People really complaining right now? Those Brooklyn picks weren"t going to be worth too much later if they didn't control those picks. Those Suns picks just might be if they decide to blow it all up. Also knowing Phoenix, they'll take 2 more decades to get a competitive team together. Now if Stone trades Sengun for a 80 yr old Durant, then we'd have something to rightfully complain about.
As long as Stone doesn't do something insanely stupid like trading Alpi, I am good with him for now. The Sheppard pick makes me VERY happy.
For the sake of the mental well being of this board I’m glad they took Sheppard. That he may be good is secondary.
People arguing the Nets won't tank without having their picks back are clueless. Brooklyn tried their best to compete last season and still handed us the 20.2% top 4 ping pong ball which resulted in #3 pick this year. it's not like they don't want to compete with Bridges, they can't help but being bottom teams in the weak East. even if they'd keep Bridges and spend some stupid money on Claxton and maybe another mediocre free agent, they'd still be a bottom 10 teams in 25'/26'. the Suns are breaking down in a couple years given KD's age, yes, but i doubt a D.Booker led team is going to be bad enough to be bottom 10, more likely a #11-14 lottery team. the Nets are going to suck big time 25' & 26' after the trades, and back to where they at right now (around #8-10 in lottery) in 27' but with a lot of young talent/potential. too many picks/swaps exchanged so some people kind of confused, let's break down before/after the trade for easier comparison in value: Before / After 25' Nets Pick: 80% #8-10; 20% Top 4 >>>>>>>>> 25' OKC Pick: 99% bottom 5 26' Nets Pick: 80% #8-10; 20% Top 4 >> 27' Suns Pick: 95% #11-14; 5% Top 4 27' Nets Pick: 80% #8-10; 20% Top 4 = 27' Nets Pick: 80% #8-10; 20% Top 4 29' Rockets Pick << 29' Suns Pick: 95% #11-14; 5% Top + 29' Mavs Pick Swap right Rockets lost big time it'd be more reasonable if it's like: 26' Nets Pick + 29' Rockets Pick + 27' Nets Pick Swap right for 27' Suns Pick + 29' Suns Pick + 29' Mavs Pick Swap right we lost the 25' Nets Pick Swap for nothing!!! Stone sucks at trades, i wish the league somehow denied the trade to save his life
It's still Brooklyn NY! They are a city that can still attract players. Rich young athletes would love to play there. They can attract free agents like crazy and Yang isn't afraid to spend. L.A. Miami NY are still prime destinations for stars to move to and play. Phoenix without drafting players is not. If they blow up, they are building through the draft. Brooklyn just needs a few stars that say they want to team up and they can just move assets to find a way to fit them in. Phoenix is one injury to their stars from them saying F* this we need to rebuild restart and start from scratch.
