Rockets acquire Suns picks, return Nets picks to Brooklyn

Probably - 5 years is a long time though, so it is possible that they won't be lower picks. Having said that, they will trade Bogdanovich for another 1st ...... and you have to look at what they gave up, a guy that didn't want to be there and only has two years on his contract.

 

So I listened to a podcast to confirm but what I thought was right. I kept wondering why the trade didn’t mention 2027 or 2029. We still own the Nets swap picks for those year. That’s massive

 

I know, but what I'm saying is if they didnt own their picks there is no reason to cash in Bridges for picks. They would have gotten instant impact players like Tyus Jones or Kuzma instead of picks cuz they dont want to be bad to benefit Rockets. They can pull in other teams and get players to help them win games

 

We gave up a pick and swap and got 2 picks, 2 swaps and improved the 2027 swap. Its a dub.

 

Right - but that doesn't progress them at all. They wanted to either get a star next to Bridges or rebuild. The Nets were stuck in just about the worse spot possible a week ago. Also, Bridges did not look all that interested in the second half last year.

Now the Nets have a way out and a way to improve.

 

The Knicks are sending four unprotected picks (2025, 2027, 2029, 2031) a 2025 protected Milwaukee first, a 2028 unprotected pick swap and a 2025 second-round pick for Mikal Bridges and a 2026 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

This is exactly like the deal for harden … these are so far out, very likely knicks already contended and then started to rebuild … NBA history tells you the Knicks organization is one of the best bets to bet against

 

And the Rockets still have a future Nets pick in their pocket.

 

Do you have a vendetta against the Nets? I dont care whether they improve or not. I care about the Rox asset base.

If the Rox own their picks, the Nets priority will be to win games not to rebuild. They dont want to rebuild and give us picks. They already gave us Cam Whitmore, Eason and the top 3 pick and Harden didnt even stay there long. Sure they cant get a star next to Bridges, but you dont need a star to be mediocre in the East.

Like I said Tyus Jones. Marcus Smart, the other Bridges. All these players can help them win more games in 2025 and in 2026, Simmons is an expiring, they can flip him and sign a big free agent.

 

Ok? Why does that matter to us? Question is if the Nets dont have their 2025 and 2026 pick why will they bottom out their roster? They will use some of those picks to get help for 2025 and 2026.

They have Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas, Nic Claxton....there are pieces there for a 40 win team in the leastern conference. You listed so many picks dont you think Nets can flip some of those for Tyus Jones or Marcus Smart? The other bridges also ont he trade block. Jerami Grant for Ben Simmons and 2027 and 2029 pick you think Portland says no?

You have to look at other team angles and think why Nets will tank just to give Rox top picks in 2025 and 2026. From that angle getting rid of the Nets picks is the right move cuz the Nets could have gotten a lot of help if they wanted to once they got the deal from the Knicks

 

I think perhaps they could have got other mediocre tread water trades for Bridges that involved semi-productive players.

In the East, they could have cobbled together a squad to win 40 games around a marginal star (ie Bridges for Ingram and a younger talent??)

There is enough they could have done to make the pick 14+ for years.
Certainly we help them by allowing them to tank, but it cost them double the price to buy that right back.

Well done to Stone for the deal
But well done also to Marks - he got a haul of picks to play with, and they have double max cap space for the 2025 FA class. They now have options.

I don't see how keeping our foot on their throat out of spite benefits us long term? That 1 mid first pick plus swap option would need to have been clearly more beneficial than any of the 4 Suns options would be. We'll never know because the Nets can now tank....

 

I don't see the similar level of leverage at all. Leverage essentially means "You need us to cooperate to proceed. You have no other good options. Therefore, you need to compensate us accordingly." OKC had that leverage over the Clippers because Kawhi wanted to sign with them to play with PG or not at all. Their options were to either do the deal or be stuck with a team full of mediocre vets that weren't good enough to compete but also too good to tank with.

Brooklyn is badly constructed, but they had options. They had Simmons' expiring contract and cap space for two max contracts next summer. They had the haul of picks from the Durant and Kyrie trades. The Knicks offer was too good to pass up IMO, but an impatient owner could easily not give a F and just go for win now moves. Miami once turned down four 1st round picks for Justise Winslow. Did that make sense? That was my only reservation about the swap and picks, it depended on Brooklyn not trying to win when they had assets and cap space. And their front office historically goes the win now route. Stone may have pressed them and they said "F you, we'll trade for Dejounte Murray or Markannen or something and sign Ingram next summer. You are not bending us over the table." They didn't need us for the Knicks trade package at all, they just offered us something for their picks back.

 

We didn’t have that much leverage on the Nets. Prior to the trade, they had everything at their disposal to remain a play-in team (at worst) with no incentive to tank.

 

Didn't say, just said they turned down 4 picks. Wouldn't surprise me if they were unprotected. He's worth more than Gobert when factoring in age, cap space, and offensive impact.

 

Bridges is a decade younger and better defender.

 

wait what…. We had all the leverage

us trading their picks was the “only” way they could make that trade for the massive haul of picks from the knicks and the only way they get their picks back

that was one of the most high leveraged situations I’ve ever seen in a trade

 

Man, y'all weird. Y'all acting like Stone just traded Josh Christopher or something. All mad and heart broken.

 

We dont even know what we have its better to evaluate our rookies first before you add even more. Moving back 2 yrs is not a long time and we have been drafting multiple rookies every year since 2021.

 

woj is a dipshit? everything he has said about the rockets has come out to be true. our only saving grace has been other gms saying **** no to his offers lol

 

LMAO

 

What are you talking about?

He turned 1 pick and swap into 2 picks and 2 swaps from a team in a much more difficult situation.

The Suns are full of big money old contracts.

Seriously, give me the argument who is better in 2026-2027?

The suns have virtually no cap space, draft picks, or young players.

The Nets have cap flexibility and picks.