Rockets acquire Suns picks, return Nets picks to Brooklyn

based on basic logic… Also verifiable historical trade data… this was a massive overpay. They got back a bigger haul than teams got for super stars

 

That isn't tagging you #moron.

Also the issue with Gordon is that the Rockets had trade offers of two first round draft picks for Gordon and settled for one.

Guess what? They could have traded to get into the top 20 of that draft.... so, the idea that it was the Gordon pick or bust for Whitmore is insincere or really short-sighted thinking.

The idea that you want to applaud Rockets management for not trading Gordon for two first rounders, and then settling for a single first rounder is indicative of the problem.

 

This coming from someone that says "COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED."

I would say you are a child, but you have been on here for years.

 

I think the Nets could certainly be mediocre or slightly better for this upcoming season with the “great draft class”. I think there’s a path for them to wait us out for longer than next season.

Also to be clear… the Nets couldn’t add a “star” this upcoming season…. Not indefinitely .

 

Nets can rebuild without tanking. In 2026 Ben Simmons contract is expiring. Sure Bridges could have given the Nets 6 frps...and then Nets trade those for players who could help them win instead of keeping them for themselves. They can trade with Wizards for Tyus Jones and then flip Simmons at the deadline for example. Isnt Grizz looking to dump Marcus Smart? Maybe for a couple Knicks picks they get him etc Why will they keep those picks and benefit Rockets?

Sure Nets are in a terrible situation, but they dont have to be in a good situation to screw us over, they just need to be a mediocre situation. Thats very easy to do as Nets are in the East. Nets already have several pieces alongside Bridges, Nic Claxton, Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas. If it werent for injuries Nets wouldnt even be the 9th pick.

Whats baffling to me is you think Nets would destroy their team just to give Rockets high picks in 2025 and 2026 just for kicks. Makes zero sense.

 

Maybe? What if Brooklyn gets the 5th pick? What if the Suns really suck after next year and they blow up their team which gives us a high likelihood of getting a high lotto pick from them. It's easy to talk in absolutes and you are correct that the Nets are likely to be a bottom of the barrel team next season, making it likely that their pick will be a top 5 pick, however, it's not a bad a haul to shift our picks to later years knowing damn well that our team has a bunch of young talent already.

I'm still not a fan of the trade myself, but I'm not that upset about it either.

 

lol. Man, if you don’t get a reference, just let it go. Posting stuff like this just makes you seem so clueless.

 

Anything is possible, but I find it very unlikely that the Nets would pass up that many assets from a Bridges trade.... and he is a free agent in two seasons.

It was always a long shot for the Nets to add a star player because of their very limited assets in trade and because they are not a good team.

 

That really did go right over your head.

 

Exactly. The thought of BKN standing pat on Bridges when he's demanding out, visibly quit on the team mid-season and took a big step back in production last year - when receiving such an INSANE value offer from NYK is nonsensical to me.

I don't give a **** about all the after the act puff pieces saying the opposite. After seeing these deals, I don't think Marks is an idiot. I'm not buying that he would have passed on that golden offer and blown the PHX picks on trying to patch together a team.

Fans are coping right now, Stone just isn't good at maximizing value.

 

Stone is on record saying he tried trading up to grab Cam, that we were just extremely lucky that he fell to 20. And that's trying to trade into the top 20 with the #20 and future draft capital. Imagine trying to trade up with the #25 that Memphis was supposedly offering.

All these hypotheticals about what Stone could have done seem a bit silly. We aren't in the negotiating room, nor have we gotten reports that we left stuff on the table. Maybe Stone did try to rip Marks off in this deal and it just didn't pan out. Are we upset that we didn't get a complete fleecing? That's a bit unrealistic. Sometimes extreme leverage, and I don't think ours was even that strong, doesn't pan out. I remember Miami having all of the leverage in the Damian Lillard trade talks. They wanted to fleece Portland, who then gave Miami the finger and traded him to Milwaukee for Jrue and multiple picks. Miami thought they could get a star for essentially nothing and instead wasted another year of Butler's short window, and possibly Butler as well.

 

Nah. Referencing the poetry of Danuel House is not childish. Playing pretend insider, however, is quite childish.

 

Not all picks are created equal. The Nets and Suns picks are probably equate to 2-2.5 Knicks picks if that. The Knicks are going to be quite for the next 4-5 years.

 

Referencing the "poetry of Danuel House".

LOL Okay.

 

This is exactly my point. Guys like @Nook are penny wise and pound foolish, and what’s funny is they advocate for such a trait in management when, from my experience, that is the worst trait a CEO can possess. I’ve seen massive, market-changing deals blow up over minor assets and ego. You judge a manager by his or her overall performance, not whether they could have, hypothetically, extracted a little more juice from a singular transaction. @Nook ’s mentality is the definition that of a lower level manager who thinks, “I coulda done better!”

 

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

It is hard to have more leverage than the Rockets had on the Nets.... the only similar level of leverage I can remember a team having was when the Thunder traded Paul George to the Clippers, and the Clippers had to have George to get Leonard.

 

Danuel House is an awesome rapper though. I think we can at least find common ground there...

 

COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!

 

Their haul are all low picks from a team that wants to make at least ECF every year for the next 6 yrs. Brunson only 26 and all the Nova dudes around that age as well. The quantity is there but the quality isnt.

Thats not good incentive to blow it all up in fact without their picks there is no incentive to blow it up. They gonna rebuild with Knicks 2025 and 2026 frp? lol

 

The upcoming season was all that mattered