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Rockets acquire Suns picks, return Nets picks to Brooklyn

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 25, 2024 at 9:12 PM.

  1. roslolian

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    Net wouldnt blow it all up if they didnt get their picks back. You are one of the veteran posters here you didnt realize that?

    Sean Marks didnt trade Bridges to the Knicks and then call the Rox for their picks back. Like why would he tank the years they dont own their picks can you explain that?

    Whats even crazier is you suddenly jump into Stone's ego? How the F did ego even come into play here? Y'all are crazy AF.
     
  2. cml750

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    I am not a fan of this trade and do not want to see them give up anything for an over 35 year old Durant. That would be just plain stupid. If the goal is to try to eventually get Booker here then it makes more sense.
     
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    I just want to say that most people understand the bridges trade was likely contingent on the Hou/bkn trade.

    I keep seeing that like it’s new info… even if that trade doesn’t happen I’d prefer that 2025 pick to what we got. BKN would not have been good next year. They didn’t have cap space to improve, no one wants to play there and the fact they made this trade shows they had no path to majorly upgrade the team.

    One injury or bad luck that pick is worth more than every pick we got back.

    unless there is another move coming this was not a good trade.

    Could things change? Sure. Could one of these drafts end up being a stacked draft with multiple wembys? Sure. But that is impossible to know and unlikely. So in the moment without a major move coming eminently , this was not a good trade.
     
  4. theDude

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    No one should be looking at this deal as individual picks in a specific draft. Stone wanted quantity. Look what the Nets got for Mikal Bridges. If you want to make a trade, you have to have picks. The other team doesn’t care how good the picks are or if they are in a good draft class or not. They just want a high count total on the picks. Stone increased our number of tradeable picks. Mission accomplished.

    Now, cashing them in for a 35+ aging superstar would be a different story.
     
  5. JW86

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    Right now this looks like a major L, even worse if we go for freaking KD…
     
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    I dont understand this trade at all.
     
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    Harden assets from Nets

    Tari Eason
    #3 2024
    #? 2027 (Nets will suck)

    Harden assets from Suns

    2025 Swap (Suns) Meh…
    2027 FRP (Suns)
    2029 FRP (Suns)
    2029 FRP (Dallas)

    These picks are gold, and we have a huge window to make use of them now.
     
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    I don’t see how BKN could have passed on that Bridges offer.

    5 first, all but one UNP, and a swap, and 2nds, and a decent vet in Bojan. For a souped up ROLE PLAYER?

    I refuse to believe that BKN accepting that offer was contingent on anything. Marks clearly isn’t an idiot.

    Feels like fans are stocking up the copium after hyping those 2 drafts for years now.

    The Stone era has a theme, and that’s been subpar asset management.
     
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    It was definitely contingent on getting their own picks back. New York picks #25 this year. If Bridges makes them better, then those future picks will all be around that spot or later. Those are Tyty Washington/Josh Christopher level picks. They are next to worthless, except for trading purposes. The only way they trade Bridges and start rebuilding is if they get their own picks back. They cannot rebuild with those Knicks picks.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5592159/2024/06/26/knicks-mikal-bridges-nba-draft-cooper-flagg/

    … On the other side of the ledger, Brooklyn couldn’t possibly move forward with the Bridges deal without the other half of it: swapping future picks owed by the Suns to Brooklyn for those owed by the Nets to Houston. Yes, they traded draft picks so they could tank. The NBA is amazing.

    This actually came at a considerable cost. People’s brains are spinning right now trying to process all this, but the Nets had two unprotected firsts from Dallas and Phoenix in 2029 that now are essentially controlled by the Rockets — Houston gets the better of the two automatically, and can swap for the other one with its own pick. Given the odds of Phoenix being awful by then, that’s a sweet haul.

    The benefit for Brooklyn is that a 2025 pick swap given to Houston in the James Harden trade was removed, allowing the Nets to freely tank this season and have it benefit themselves rather than the Rockets. The Nets also got their own unprotected 2026 first back, again a key condition for bottoming out. Houston’s reward, in addition to that 2029 bounty, was an unprotected first from Phoenix in 2027 and a complicated pick swap in 2025 that can turn either their own pick or the Thunder’s into Phoenix’s pick if it benefits them.

    So the Nets gave up two unprotected picks (2029, 2027) for one unprotected pick in return (2026), and gave up two swaps (2029, 2025) for one admittedly more valuable swap (2025). It was understandable business for the Nets because it gets them out of mediocre, chase-the-play-in limbo and sets them in a new direction; they’re in a much better place now than they were 24 hours ago.

    Finally, just to be clear: Remember that there was no scenario where the Nets were making the Bridges trade without doing the Houston deal. That 2025 pick swap was never going to be as valuable to the Rockets as it now is to the Nets.

    But my goodness, this was fantastic business for Houston.
     
  12. Sooner423

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    I think we have to be patient in judging this deal. I think folks were already counting their Cooper Flagg egg, when, in reality, there was really only a very small chance of them landing that first pick. Frankly, there's still a small chance. Who knows how quickly the Suns will implode? Does anyone really think that's not inevitable?

    In the end, they trade one pick and one swap for two picks and two swaps. They move the window forward for adding new prospects to a very crowded young roster. They add more fodder for star chasing. This CAN work out for the better for the Rockets.
     
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    Brooklyn 2026 pick appreciation thread
     
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    It wasn't a gauranteed lotto pick though. BKN wasn't going to trade Bridges unless they got back their picks from the Rockets. If they didn't get those picks back they had absolutely no incentive to tank to make the Rockets better.
     
  15. Astrodome

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    Just saw this on /Suns





    LOL
     
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    Spurs will be better. Memphis will be better. We will be better. Hell, OKC will be better and they had the best record. The West is a beast and if Durant is checked out, they're screwed.
     
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  17. roslolian

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    exactly. People who can't see Suns being bad are the same people who kept saying Stone messed up by sending Harden to the Nets.
     
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    Phoenix's potential "championship window" with their big three will not stay open long. They are one serious injury, with a largely injury-prone roster, from falling out of contention in the West. SA, Sacramento, Houston, and NO are all set to reload. Even the Blazers might get their act together. I wouldn't take it for granted that they will be a top-5 team in 2025.

    I don't mind holding the Sun's future draft capital, but it won't be to secure Durant. He wouldn't want to be the senior spokesman on a young team. He's no Uncle Jeff.

    I wouldn't mind if we could pry Booker loose; I'm sure he would love to play for Udoka, but Phoenix will try to improve their bench and run it back.

    When Phoenix does push the reset button, the Rockets FO can facilitate the relocation of one of their big 3 to a new team of their choice and secure future resources.

    Will Stone's gamble work? Let's see what he gets out of the lottery today.
     
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    delete
     
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  20. Astrodome

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    In 2023-24, Durant had a salary of $46.4 million, but that number is going up. Next season, the forward is set to make $49.9 million in salary, followed by another bump in 2025-26, making $53.3 million in the final year of his deal.

    He is under contract through the 2025-26 season, and will be a free agent in 2026.

    Season Age Salary
    2023-24 35 $46.4 million
    2024-25 36 $49.9 million
    2025-26 37 $53.3 million
    2026 38 UFA

    2023-24 season

    • 27.1 points per game
    • 6.6 rebounds per game
    • 5.0 assists per game
    • 52.3 percent field goal shooting
    • 41.3 percent 3-point shooting
    • 85.6 percent free throw shooting
    Career
    • 27.3 points per game
    • 7.0 rebounds per game
    • 4.4 assists per game
    • 50.1 percent field goal shooting
    • 38.7 percent 3-point shooting
    • 88.4 percent free throw shooting
     

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