Rockets acquire Suns picks, return Nets picks to Brooklyn

That's what CF said when Harden got traded to Brooklyn.

 

I'll play devil's advocate. Yes, the Brooklyn picks just got much better without Bridges. But complaining that we've lost out on that future is a moot point as Brooklyn doesn't trade Bridges unless they get their own picks back.

It was either betting on Brooklyn being mediocre for two years or the Suns being Mediocre for three, that's not a bad move, especially come 2029 when the team will be in it's prime, that Suns pick will be huge.

All this is irrelevant if those picks are used to trade for KD, in which case the front office are total morons.

 

I'd much rather have given the Nets this year's #3 and held on to next year's swap, but there's no guarantee they'll be bottom-5 bad next year.

 

Looks like the Rockets probably won’t win another championship within your lifetime either. 1995 was 30 years ago.

 

The deal has actually been brought up before - the Rockets want to push the date the picks are realized down the road so they can hold onto it longer.

 

If this was contingent on the Bridges trade then ive got no issue with this trade. Really, i dont think its a huge deal either way.

Brooklyn maybe couldve gotten better this season by trading Simmons expiring. Definitely couldve gotten better next off season when he came off the books.

Plus other factors that've been covered as well.

Could end up being a good trade. We'll see.

 

I prob got 50 more years so I'm good. Unfortunately Presti exists and works for OKC. Might have to wait till he grows old and falls off.

 

Yeah I honestly don't care. As long as its not our own picks going out it's completely whatever to me. I'll worry about the value of the picks when the time comes.

 

2025 BKN -> 2025 PHO - Massive downgrade
2026 BKN -> 2027 PHO - Downgrade, time value, uncertainty of draft class
+2029 PHO - Completely uncertain what the value of this is
+2029 PHO/DAL swap (least favorable)- this is basically nothing

Stone took a huge loss in asset value for a scratch off in 2029. Mismanagement.

 

This is probably a decision based on Udoka. I don’t think he wants to develop all these kids. And would rather win now.

So they had to kick this can further down the road.

 

What a massive disappointment, Stone mishandled this

 

I remember a lot of people hated the Harden trade at first too and called most of the picks worthless.

I can understand folks not liking the trade though. But im not sure that this is a fireable offense. I guess we'll see if the gamble pays off.

 

Liked the trade.Expecting all of the picks will be traded. So 4>2. And 2027 Swap with BKN is also more valuable trade asset now.
I expect 2024 #3 is also traded.

 

Yes and the same idiots are criticizing Stone now, while celebrating our newly assembled young roster

 

Then want to say Stone got lucky lol

 

He did not look good this past year and he looked really old in the playoffs. People are already talking about trading Tari, Jalen, and all of their picks back for KD who has one foot in retirement, smh.

 

wait did we become all of a sudden the OKC Thunder rest stop? Harden, Westbrook, and now maybe Durant. Is Ibaka still in the league?

 

Just had a thought. What if the Rockets trade #3+ to Portland for 7 and 14 only to use them in a trade for Durant/Butler/George?

 

Overall I give the deal a B-. Agree with the principle, I like keeping the 2027 swap, and I think the deal on its own is a net positive.

Huge caveat is that I can’t understand how we didn’t have leverage to get 1 more draft asset here. The 28 PHX swap or the 27 PHI pick. Between NYK, BKN, and us, we should have had by far the most leverage - the other two parties need us to execute their core strategic plan on a deadline, we could have waited. Underwhelming negotiation IMO, but the end result is fine enough.

If we use these picks for an all in win now trade for an over 30 star that isn’t homegrown and won’t win us a championship — I’ll adjust my grade to an F and assume the worst about this franchise under current ownership. Don’t think that will happen though. I think Woj was editorializing with the KD stuff.

Very curious what happens with #3 tomorrow. Surely if they wanted to move it for future draft equity it would have been included in this trade - BKN has infinite future picks and reportedly wants to get into this draft.

Obviously I want us to make the pick. Does the FO want to? Is there a contingent deal out there better than what Brooklyn was offering?

 

Great a bunch of 35 year olds