Louisiana makes it law that 10 commandments be displayed in public classrooms

You are comparing public schools with private religious schools. No prob with religious schools put up the posters. Knock themselves out. They won't have kids from other religions attending. Or kids who choose to not worship any religion attend.

But we are talking about *public* schools. Where kids of many other religions attend. And kids who choose to not worship a religion. They shouldn't have to ignore or "look away" from posters on the walls. Since that is the whole idea behind the U.S. Constitution against the establishment of a state religion.

Now that we both agree. Culture war BS from the right.

 

That should have been expected... I reckon the maga supreme court will have to eventually release a 6-3 decision in the future, likely on a Friday afternoon before a three day weekend.

 

Don't know why I can't let this topic go. Just gobsmacked, I guess, by how dumb this law is.

Presume the argument is correct, that somehow US law is built in part on the 10 commandments. A poster doesn't give the student any explanation of why 7 of those commandments aren't a thing in US law. It doesn't trace the lineage of US prohibitions on stealing and murdering back to British law and further back to the time when Britain was first Christianized and those stealing and murdering Anglo-Saxons first learned that stealing and murdering was wrong. It also doesn't explain where the practice of precedent comes from, or why we have a jury of peers and a right to due process, or why we differentiate between criminal and civil (most writings on Mosaic law subdivide that into ceremonial, moral, and civic). You can't expect a poster to do everything, but as a foundational writing that is so important that it must be in every classroom in the state, I'd expect it to do more than what it's doing.

Ummm, catholic schools and other religious-based private schools do have people from other religions attend. Parents are willing to stomach some religious indoctrination to get the education they think is worthwhile for their kids. And the schools don't discriminate. To your point, though, that's a religious indoctrination that the parents consented to in a private transaction. That's not at all like going to the one public option available. If you want your kids to go to a school without the 10 commandments in it, you have to pay a private school to achieve that.

 

Im not even making an argument here. Im not advocating a position. It’s simply an observation. You’re reading an argument into my observation.

People like you have a prejudice and simply look to find something to argue or disagree about when nothings even there.

Pretty funny.

 

The hell you're not. Even if it amounts to willful ignorance.

 

Maybe because you sense how impactful it would be.

You just need one. Sorry. A new precedent will be set to restore the Christian values that have been so missing in our society and are the root of all the problems today.

 

What position did my post advocate? Please cite the language and explain how it advocated for a position.

 

Goldwater, who lost one of the most lopsided elections in history, is a liberal hero.

Spoiler

my parents voted for him

 

Not impactful in that way, really. No Christian values will be restored even if they require a 50 minute sermon every school day. No one is getting converted with this approach. If anything, it will deepen resentment against the church. All it can do (and is designed to do, imo) is to tell everyone that the white nationalists still have enough power in Louisiana that they can **** on you and you can't do anything about it. Applies just as much to liberals as atheists or blacks or Jews or Muslims or women. Doesn't matter if you ascribe to the 10 commandments, the posting of it in obvious contradiction to the Bill of Rights and getting away with it is enough to tell anyone that their rights too can be abridged if you get crosswise with the christian nationalists.

 

OK, but as you pointed out the parents of those students make a decision to send their kids to a private religious school. Most parents don't or can't (afford to) make that decision. SO their kids go to a public school, where the kid and parent are now, without choice, having to be indoctrinated in a religion that may not be theirs.

 

You are voicing the same argument of other right wingers... "the kids can simply look away".

 

Funny... back in the day when republicans were conservatives.

 

vouchers are the word you’re looking for

 

The position that an abject violation of the first amendment by a state is "meh".

 

So how does that play out?

Are vouchers a infinite supply?

Can any parent get a voucher to go to a better school?

 

Public school fun fact about Baton Rouge specifically.

The public schools are gently so bad that people move out of town for better ones. I commute into Baton Rouge daily (40 min) because we didn’t wanna live in that **** hole and we wanted our kids to go to a public school. That was a good one.

 

When was this for you?

I don't think the public schools in BR have improved much over the last 30 years. There are a few good public schools, but very few.

 

Sarcasm

Impactful in how the Court twisted itself into accepting that US laws are built on the 10C—a move worthy of The Onion.

But seriously, I don't mind the Christian right getting their relief, bringing back the Christian values they believe have been missing and causing societal decay for the last 40-50 years. Be proud of reinstating the 10C in schools. Meanwhile, students have ChatGPT, Google, and Siri to enjoy the historical and legal basis of it. Maybe the plus side of this is that they stop trying to defund public education.