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Louisiana makes it law that 10 commandments be displayed in public classrooms

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  1. mtbrays

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    They should print them in Arabic
     
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  2. JuanValdez

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    Their historicity argument is some bs too. I'd like to see their argument that American law is actually built on the 10 commandments. Because it forbids murder? Because it forbids stealing? Every legal code in human civilization does those things.
     
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    I think it’s more likely thy post something from
    The OT about punishing the wicked.

    Speaking of such I’m wondering what happened to that poster who was on a tear about letting us know he was a Christian and that the Left and Democrats were going to the Lake of Fire?
     
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    LOL, nothing new there.
     
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    That K9 dog guy? Did he leave? I had that wacko on ignore.
     
  6. No Worries

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    Gov. Jeff Landry signed legislation on Wednesday requiring the display of the Ten Commandments in every public classroom in Louisiana, making the state the only one with such a mandate and reigniting the debate over how porous the boundary between church and state should be.

    “If you want to respect the rule of law,” he said, “you’ve got to start from the original law giver, which was Moses.

    Consensus OT biblical scholarship is that Moses and the Exodus are completely mythical. And a single person, by tradition Moses, did not write the Torah.

    I guess Gov. Jeff Landry wants to spread religious propaganda to our innocent children, no?
     
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    OMG, I was thinking that same thing when they said the poster sized commandments would go up in Elementary schools. Maybe they can count all the times their Presidential hopeful committed adultery in a math problem. They wouldn't be able to count all the lies the orange man told though. The school year isn't long enough. :p
     
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    The current SCW crowd lean more into The Wrath of God **** versus the direct quotes of the founder of their faith, Jesus Christ, who I guess is now too "liberal" for them.
     
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  9. Amiga

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    First, the Ten Commandments; next, the call to prayer? Laying the groundwork for Sharia law, one mandate at a time. When the Supreme Court rules in favor of this, proponents of Sharia law in the US will be celebrating.

    @AroundTheWorld
    's worst nightmare is starting to roost.
     
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  10. Amiga

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    There is a rewriting of history among the elite within the MAGA Party, pushing the idea that the founders intended to establish a nation based on Christian law. They will likely find great success, given the ease with which they have convinced the masses in recent years.
     
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    glad you've come to terms with the inevitability of Trump's reelection.
     
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    This is the argument already used in Texas and will be used in the legislative session next year to pass a similar law.

    In government (12th grade) students are taught:
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    (B) identify major intellectual, philosophical, political, and religious traditions that informed the American founding, including Judeo-Christian (especially biblical law), English common law and constitutionalism, Enlightenment, and republicanism, as they address issues of liberty, rights, and responsibilities of individuals;
    (C) identify the individuals whose principles of laws and government institutions informed the American founding documents, including those of Moses, William Blackstone, John Locke, and Charles de Montesquieu;

    (11)
    (D) analyze the reasons the Founding Fathers protected religious freedom in America and guaranteed its free exercise by saying that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and compare this to the concept of separation of church and state;


    (16)
    (A) evaluate a U.S. government policy or court decision that has affected a particular racial, ethnic, or religious group such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the U.S. Supreme Court cases of Hernandez v. Texas and Grutter v. Bollinger; and

    https://texreg.sos.state.tx.us/publ...=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=19&pt=2&ch=113&rl=44
     
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    I think the D&D wasn't good for his mental health. It's probably best for him and for us that he take a break.

    Even in a plain reading, it's obvious it wasn't all his own authorship. It describes Moses' own death. But he had people. It's possible it was the Moses Administration that assembled the first five books. But calling him the original law giver is some bs too. He has that role within the universe of the old testament. But the oldest known code of law is Sumerian and predates Moses by almost a thousand years. The Code of Hammurabi is also older than Mosaic Law and was an influence upon it.

    In any case, I'd say America's legal heritage is from English law, not Mosaic Law. England had operated on a common law system, operating on precedent except and until there was legislation that addressed the crime. After the English Reformation, there was a theocratic effort to make English law conform to Mosaic Law by requiring the death penalty for things like manslaughter and adultery. That effort was unsuccessful. Around this same time, Puritans were colonizing New England, escaping "religious persecution" (lol). The Puritans were Law-of-Moses kinda people. But by the time of the American Revolution, we didn't have many Puritans running around. We'd rejected the radical theocrats' desire to punish everything with the death penalty. Adulterous women, for example, could be punished but not executed. So, I don't accept that American law comes from Mosaic Law. It comes from English law, which had developed organically from pre-Norman times and had later expressly rejected efforts to make it conform to the OT. Colonists in the US contemporaneously rejected the views of their religious zealots and adopted a legal system that conformed with the mainstream in England with some reforms to better protect the rights of the accused.
     
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    The primary argument used is that the 10 commandments are being posted for historical reasons and not religious reasons because the 10 Commandments were fundamental in the structuring of our government...which is bulls$hit.

    Here are some of the Founding Fathers beliefs:

    James Madison was a devout Christian, but he objected to chaplains opening the proceedings of Congress with prayer because he felt religion had no place in Government.

    George Washington was a Deists who often refused communion and gave his approval for the Treaty of Tripoli which states “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion…”

    John Adams was actually a Christian, but he also gave his approval to the wording of the Treaty of Tripoli and actually signed it as President.
    Thomas Paine was obviously an Atheist.

    Jefferson was a Christian-lite. He did not believe in any of the miracles of Jesus and made his own edited Bible which removed all miracles. He was also the author of the famous letter to Danbury Baptists which for the first time described the U.S. as having a "separation of church and state".

    Benjamin Franklin was a diest. In his own words, his religion was "do good in the community." He went to jail for refusing to pay church taxes in the U.S.

    As a matter of fact, a large portion of all the founding fathers were in fact Deists. They believed in a "hands-off" God who did not intervene in the affairs of man. They were highly influenced by the (very popular at the time) Age of Enlightenment. Because of this, they were purposely framing a government that was as far away from a religion was possible.
     
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    If our government was based in the ten commandments Bill Clinton and Donald Trump would have capital punishments for their adultery.

    Id support the ten commandments being core to our government and legal system if we do capital punishments for politicians who lie.
     
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    I think this is good for Louisiana.
     
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    This guy's thread is pretty compelling...


     
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    SCW historians do not need no "history" books to know that the US is a Christian nation.
     
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    @basso
    @Salvy
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    Louisiana saw all those Hamas supporters that the northern schools are producing and said hell no

    Jewish hero Moses is what they are going to teach

    all those antisemites posting above want Jihad
     
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