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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Bo6

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    Would it be fair to say he needs to finally break into the top 100 in 3 point percentage?
     
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    One of you stat guys find out how many players last year improved their 3 pt% by 3% last year.
     
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    3% ?
     
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    I think it's safe to say that if Jalen Green had shot what Jabari or even Dillon Brooks shot from 3 last season, people would not be so critical of his inefficiency. And both of those players were below league average in 3pt shooting.

    Jalen's problem is that there's good 3pt shooting, there's average 3pt shooting, there's below average but acceptable 3pt shooting, and there's "if he's taking 5+ 3s a game the offense is going to suck" 3pt shooting. I just need Jalen to take one step up.
     
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    Here's one of them. He doubled that.
    Jabari Smith 30.7% - 36.3%

    Eason came close. 34.3% - 36.0%
     
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    With his shooting in mind … maybe he should take Less 3’s

    but then again that asks more from other players on the team to shoot better and be better spacers for him

    so really , like everyone else says … he needs to get better at making 3’s

    he’s a guard . Guards have to shoot nowadays

    otherwise they cannot be top 10 at their position .

    especially since he’s not bringing top tier passing or defense
     
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    Don't have time to find out how many. But Jabari Smith on our own team improved from 31% to 36%; 2pt% from 49% to 53%; TS% from 51% to 57%.

    Jalen's 3-year averages:
    3p% -- 34%, 33%, 33%
    2pt% -- 50%, 47%, 50%
    TS% -- 55%, 54%, 54%.
    His game to game shooting is inconsistent. But his seasonal averages are remarkably consistent, consistently below average without upward trajectory. That's why so many people are skeptical about his potential improvement.

    If he can get to league average TS% which is 58%, he'll be a good starter. We aren't even talking about star numbers.
     
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    Yes from 33.3% to 36.3%. 4% would put him at league average for a SG so maybe 4% would be the better number.
     
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    And that 3rd year is with one of the most highly regarded shooting coaches on the team.

    WTH Jalen??
     
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    Meanwhile, Amen needs a 23% increase to get to league average :eek:
     
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    58% ts would be better than "next face of the league" Ant Edwards and it isn't like he makes up for it with high assist numbers.

    Also a rather superficial way of understanding "improvement". Players can go through different roles, could care more about feet an things like Green exerting more energy on defense and having to get used to it.

    He's shown improvements in every other aspect besides his jump shot. Hence why people are cautiously optimistic about him improving. 3 years isn't some unbreakable pattern. It's three years after joining the league at 19.

    If he's capable of putting in the work to improve in other aspects his shooting consistency eventually will come along. This season he had to battle with pretty existential aspects of his career like what his role is with a new coaching staff with new expectations on what he is as a defender. That can delay shooting efficiency improvement.
     
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    As an admitted JG "hater" lol, i watched some of his season highlights last night... and geez, when he's on top of his game, god damn he can be so so good. Insane athleticism obvious.

    To me it comes down to 90% his 3pt shot. The final 10% is in bulk.

    I just dont trust either of those will come so meh.

    Hopefully they do. If March JG becomes what he is 90% of the time, then this is a top 4 west team next year.
     
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    Yes, ff Jalen Green can reach .575 TS% on Ant's shooting volume, become a better passer like Ant, become a better defender like Ant, improve his game every year like Ant, not disappear when playoff hopes are on the line like Ant, then yes I will call him a star.
     
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    I mean when you just spit out platitudes.

    Do you think all Green provides is "shooting"?

    If that is the case why does he have the second best on/off impact on team offensive efficiency only behind FVV out of the main rotation (Landale is higher but he has really one month of sample size) with such a low individual ts%?


    Ant is better because he's more efficient. That's pretty much it. His two main attributes that are better than Green is strength and consistency with jump shot. That's really it. I would say Green is even the more creative ball handler. You can see how they look side by side in their head to head in April. Green looked like the more polished creative ball handler.
     
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    You just go to the game log and count?
     
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    You can sort by the columns by clicking on them. So if you click on "3p%" at the top it takes like 30 seconds to get all the numbers he posted. It also counts the games for you in the far left column so you don't even need to count them yourself.
     
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    Yes but I’ll settle for getting to 30% from the corner with all the other things he brings to the team. That may be a long shot, but I think he does that.
     
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    Jalen can get to the elbow at will. If he can knock down mid-range shots at a high clip, while improving in every other aspect of his game, he’ll at worst be a 6th man of the year guy, and at best can still become an SGA-type. At this point you are just looking for consistency and improvement. I honestly don’t know what a 30-game sample the first half of the season is gonna tell us about Jalen, but I feel like there’s already a ton of sunk cost. I don’t want to pay him though and I have no idea what Jalen’s value is on the market.
     

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