Why politicians hate libertarians

I think libertarianism as a party would work if they campaign on slashing departments and headcount AND stick to it as a measure of success. It would be a total baton pass because it'd be massively unpopular and the scapegoat for any failure

It would rustle many jimmies, but no department will responsibly claim they dont need the money on good harvest years and will fight tooth and nail during belt tightening years.

Use that money or lose it.

Ofc, when an American libertarian does manage to steal or sucker their way into office, they decide staying in power is more worth it than practicing their ideals.

Use that power for self gain or lose it.

Wishing Milei all the best. He might be a crazy b*stard, but he's better than what Argentina has been working with for generations.

 

Libertarians are foolish.

 

You are right and you are wrong.

When 11 companies own all the others there is no more competition - monopolies are unchecked capitalism which leads to Oligarchy - which is where we are....

Government now is paid to support business, NOT THE PEOPLE it is supposed to govern.

We need to break up the 11 companies get back to taxing corporations at a 50+% on profit, eliminate buy backs, eliminate lobbying if any money is involved, and eliminate insider trading for congress.

We are upside down, we are in the Robber Barron era part 2.......we need to break out of that before the public rebels and starts lopping off the heads of those that are exploiting the workers.

Unchecked capitalism is just as bad as Facism or Communism - government should be checking capitalism - that is it's job.

When 6 people have more money than the rest of the 330million that is a problem.

DD

 

You're describing an anarchist. Libertarians are not anarchist

 

You ever been to a libertarian convention? They boo people that believe blind people should not be able to drive a vehicle.

 

How do you get a monopoly when there are 11 companies?

Whatever your twisted definition of a monopoly is, that is ultimately not the problem. The bigger issue is these companies have significant lobbing power and have continuously pushed garbage food into all of our food chains touting it as healthy food. (Never doubt the authoritarians, they know everything, ammirite?)

 

I see you decided to ignore that actual counter to what you posted, admitted that you were arguing against an argument I never made, and then doubled down on your nonsense that businesses can somehow demand people spend 10.5 hours a day devoted to someone else's profit motive. How about, instead, businesses offer work on transparent conditions and people can choose to accept that work under those conditions or reject it and find another employer? When was the last time there were massive riots over the prevailing wage at HEB when there is sub 4% unemployment?

 

Can people "choose"? Can someone just find a plop of land if they don't have capital and do their own subsistence living without being labeled a vagrant and not chose to be employed?

 

Yes, you can choose not to work at HEB. Over 99% of Americans don't work at HEB. You can't legally/morally choose to be a squatter on someone else's property, but if you can find some unclaimed land, go for it. Most people are able to find a job that are really trying and then agree to work X hours for Y wage or salary. It is called the labor market. I know you commies hate the labor market, but it seems to have a pretty decent track record.

 

Libertarians aren’t anarchists and libertarians do recognize a need for government primarily to protect contracts and property.

The problem though is that limiting government regulation to those things usually leads to robber barons, massive wealth inequality and poor health and environment. This is what the US was back when it was run far closer to what libertarians advocate.

Yes burdensome regulations are problematic and a centralized planned economy becomes very inefficient and corrupt. Both too much regulation and too little regulation is a problem.

 

This is why I still think that anyone who reads Atlas Shrugged should also be required to read Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle