Racism & Fear Mongering About Immigrant Crime

The definition of discrimination.

 

Can something as complex as that term have simple "definitions". It seems like a useless endeavor.


My point is simple. If you fear the decline in birth rates in America AND believe more immigrants mean more crime, there is a racist bigoted component here that can only combine those two sentiments together in one brain to avoid cognitive dissonance

I don't know what you believe about the declining birth rates. Therefore I don't know if you are just Malthusian or racist.

 

You directly called my "take" comment racist.

 

I see them as completely separate issues. Declining birth rate is more a result of financial success and access to healthcare. Is there a big difference in the demographics of domestic births and immigration? What is the breakdown? I've never heard this litmus test for racism.

My litmus test is what the comment at all discriminatory, mine was not, therefore not racist.

 

This is a irrelevant point and an incorrect one also which is dependent on context. Declining birth rates can have multiple reasons. In developing countries it can be a sign of economic progress and increased education rates.

In America declining birth rates since America's economic peak post WW2, is a result of education and the increased cost of raising a child and fear of not being able to properly afford a proper environment for a child to be raised in optimal settings. The education part is simply women since WW2 are more career driven which means not all women see their futures as full time stay at home housewives. But the cost of living rising, decreased ownership rates for homes relative to prior generations means millennials and gen z are more afraid than previous generations over the concept of parenthood. And due to society being more open to the concept of women being able to enjoy sex without the fear of pregnancy, young people can enjoy sex and not worry about bringing new humans into the world to take care of.



This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand though. We are discussing if you fear the capitalists' concerns about declining birth rates in western developed countries having a negative effect on economic growth in the future. And if yes and at the same time you fear crime totals increasing because more immigrants come in, then logically this means there is a ethnic/racial component to why you fear a population decline but also fear more immigrants into a country.

 

Immigration contributes greatly to our economy. A stronger economy yields lower crime rates, and vice versa, a weaker economy yields higher crime rates.

Zero immigration would tank our economy and increase crime rates.

 

you've addressed none of my questions. Is this how you discuss things?

 

what is racist about limiting immigration to the most pluralistic country (and in Houston, the most ethnically diverse city) on earth.

please provide specifics with your response.

#manythanks

 

Pretty sure our crime rate has steadily declined while our immigration has gone up over the last few decades.

We are also seeing a record decline in serious crimes over the last ~2 years during a significant surge of migrants at the southern border. We also saw a spike in serious crimes during the pandemic when the southern border was shut down to migrants with Title 42.

These are, of course, all correlations, but I think it points to immigration as, at worst, not a factor in increasing crime and very likely a factor in reducing crime since immigrants are vital to our economy. We have known for a while that crime heavily correlates with how well our economy is performing, with a decrease in crime rate as the economy improves and vice versa.

 

Many of those who are advocating stopping immigration have said Houston and other diverse cities are a warning sign of what could happen to the rest of the country. Many have also made the claim that Democrats are trying g to get more immigrants in to get more votes even though there is no guarantee that new immigrants will vote for Democrats.

Some such has Tucker Carlson have pushed the idea that those who want more immigration are trying to “replace white people” in us society.

 

you don't want to limit illegal immigration because Tucker told you you should?

 

I have read through what you are responding to and I do not see the word "illegal" anywhere.

 

That’s reading a lot into my post that wasn’t there. That was a response to your claim that there isn’t racism coming from some of those wanting to limit immigration.

I’ve already stated a policy solution on this thread. Pretty much what Reagan did.

 

but not what Biden did.

 

Border encounters are at the lowest point in 4 years nd match trumps 2019 numbers.



@Bandwagoner violent crime is collapsing and is near decade low

 

I’ve stated before that I think Biden’s executive order is problematic because it doesn’t have the force of law passed by Congress.

Also what does that have to do with the post you’re responding too?

 

Biden's policy is problematic since it has resulted in hundreds of thousands of undocumented illegals entering the country. we don't know who they, and we don't know where they are.