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Trade Down and Draft Devin Carter

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coachbadlee, Jun 13, 2024.

  1. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

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    If you would put Devin Carter on Kentucky and Reed Sheppard on Providence, Kentucky would have been national champions and Providence wouldn't even be mentioned. Yes, Reed Sheppard can shoot, but he can't lead a team out of a paper bag. Devin Carter is a proven leader.
     
  2. cmoak1982

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    Stop it.
    Carter is an old prospect that put up ok numbers on a lower level school and didn’t even start as a freshman then.
     
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    It's too early in the morning to be doing hard drugs my friend.

    Devin Carter off the bench wouldn't have done ANYTHING for Kentucky.

    Again the problem here is that I know you didn't watch the games, so you really have no clue what you are talking about. The entire basis of your opinion is Devin Carter's wingspan measurement.

    Also, Carter's actual team finished 6th in the Big East and failed to even score 60 points in the NIT when they got bounced in the first round.

    His 3.6 assists per game to 2.7 turnovers per game as a 3rd year college player really showed his leadership.

    I get that this is mostly shtick, and you don't actually believe any of this, so I'm just going through to motions so that some of the dumber people around here aren't fooled by you playing around and making jokes.
     
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    Honestly I'm torn between him and Sheppard--I think Sheppard will likely be the better offensive player, maybe by a significant margin. But I think Carter will almost certainly be a much better defender and rebounder. I do have a sneaking suspicion that trading back for Carter could be the better overall value though. However, it takes two to tango, so it's hard to say whether the Rockets can even find a deal that makes sense.
     
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    How’s it a certainty he would be a better defender?
    Sheppard was a much better defender in college in a much tougher conference and level of play
     
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    But finished as a beast against the best team in the NCAA. UCONN had no answer for him in both games against Providence. You guys are lucky Carter didn't get his hands on Sheppard because I would have had way more proof that he is the best guard in this draft.
     
  7. coachbadlee

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    Carter, unlike Sheppard, was too good to come off Kentuckys bench. So you're just going to throw that NIT game out there without mentioning your guys dazzling 3 POINTS in a championship game? Of course you are.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    In fairness, I get that you don't know what you are talking about....and even if you did, you'd lie about it for your shtick... so I'll explain yet again to see if you will drop the shtick.

    Being good or bad had nothing to do with coming off the bench in Kentucky, the coach, who has since been run out of town, promised the starting job to other recruits....and that's the sole reason why Kentucky's best players came off the bench....and if a much lesser player like Carter was on the roster, he wouldn't start either for the same reason.

    Carter is a solid prospect, he should have a long career as a defensive specialist off the bench....but even you know that he's not close to the level of prospect Sheppard is, even if you won't admit it to further your shtick.
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    You're right. Sheppard could become a better prospect in the future. But that future would be in jeopardy if he goes to a team where he wont get adequate PT right away like the Rockets. But right now, today, in a win now situation, with a coach like Ime who is known for changing teams around quickly, Carter is the best choice over any guard in this weaker draft.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    No...he's better right now....and you know it. That's why any chance of the Rockets picking Carter would require a trade down. No team in the league would even consider him top 3. He's simply too limited a player.

    Honestly though, I do like this funny little schtick you've got going on where you pretend that Carter is a top prospect.
     
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    He’s an idiot. Don’t even know why you waste time with that.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Because there really are people dumb enough to think he's being serious, which pollutes the discussion.
     
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    Carter is being compared to a guy who is almost 3 years younger. As freshman when they were both in the SEC Reed had the better year by far. And as freshman Reed was actually the better defensive player according to advanced stats. Even this year Reed and Carter had identical dbpm. If Reed stayed in college until he was a junior, statistically he was on track to be a more impactful defender.

    Now, Carter definitely has the tools to be the better defender long term, but tools dont always translate.

    Also Im not sure why Carter's defensive rebounding is so alluring either. If it even translates, he can rebound for a guard. Cool.

    Carter has the makeup of a journeyman utility type pf player.
     
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    You guys can throw around all the insults you want. I'm just going to continue to shut you down with facts. The facts are Reed isn't quite ready for the big leagues. You cant call yourself a generational player and completely disappear in championship games. Y'all are trying every trick in the book to tread around your guys 3 point performance in his one and only championship game. What excuse do yall have for that? What excuse do you have for him not taking the starting spot at some point throughout a full season at Kentucky? Something other than it being a championship coach's fault. What excuse do you have for him having all these wonderful minutes and yet only leading his team in scoring 6 games? I'll wait.
     
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    Claims hes going to stick to the facts and then immediately gives an opinion stated as fact followed by a bunch of strawmans and red herrings.
     
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    What opinion. Everything I stated in that post was fact. You just can't handle the truth because it hurts.
     
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    I would not trade down we have never had a chance to get a top flight shooter in the draft that good i would keep the pick worked for the warriors we do not have great shooters on the team we only have jalen if you look at the last couple of teams that beat us okc golden state san Antonio phoenix Sacramento LA laker and LA clippers we need good shooters i would not spend on these rentals that do not want to come here be smart. keep the pick and get a good shooter like Reed Shepard with that 3rd and then look at free agency and try to move one of the other picks if you want but i would not for a move this years 3rd round pick
     
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  19. coachbadlee

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    The 9 games Carter played against ranked teams:

    1st: ,#19 Oklahoma U/ 17pts- 4rbds

    3 top ten teams:

    #1 UCONN/a. 24-15 b. 20-9

    #8 Creighton/ a. 22-11 b. 28-11 c. 25-10

    #10 Marquette/ a. 22-8 b. 27-8 c. 18-5

    Average vs. ranked teams = 23-9

    At his best vs. the best!!

    (drops mic)
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Awesome, if we trade down to 10 or 12, we should look at him as a future bench guy.
     
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