Scouts are saying his mins were consistently under 30 mins ppg, however he would have games of 20pts and others at 5pts. He was up and down.
Again though, if you watched the games you'd know why the output was "inconsistent" a few times... it was due to the piss poor game plans of the coach. The same coach who had 2 lottery pick talent guards and chose to start neither in favor of a senior who almost certainly goes undrafted and a freshman who sucks. However, Reed Sheppard did log the 3rd most minutes per game on the entire roster.... just over 28 per game so your bit about minutes is kind of weird and seems dishonest. When it comes to the game plan.... when your gameplan is to just dump the ball to the bigs and run nothing at all for the 2 star guards... to the point where they might get only one shot attempt in the first half.... it's pretty clear why they aren't going to score much in those games. There were other games that were set up to feature the star guards and in those games we got to see what they could do. It's important to remember that the coach was run out of town as a result of what a terrible job he did and had you actually watched the games I think there's a chance you'd see it too. Some of Sheppard’s best games came against the best competition because those just happened to be some of the games where the star guards were featured.... they just didn't want to do that in the tournament and the coach was run out of town for it.
Bear in mind, someone at CBS is getting paid to write this ****. This would be like if i said Sengun's comp was Dwight Howard. Davion Mitchell cant shoot for ****. Couldn't in college. Can't in the nba. Like wtf is this?
It is looking very much like we will have a rare opportunity where the likely best player available also happens to have generational talent in our biggest weakness. He is also a very high bball IQ player, a good athlete(see the 42" vertical), a good defender, and has a great assist/turnover ratio. If Sheppard is available, he should 100% be the pick. A 'tweener" guard with his abilites is a perfect fit with Alpi and Amen.
You're projecting Reed as a role player specialist and you don't know. If that's the standard you're setting then you need to understand that every player in this draft projects as that. Hence why people see it as a bad draft.
I thought you were mentioning Alex Sarr for a minute; good defender, fits well with Alpi and Amen, good athlete, etc.
I'm sure there have been, though depends on definititions of highly skilled players. Just skimming over previous drafts, I think you have possible busts in Johnny Davis, Mario Hezonja, Emmanuel Mudiay, Nik Stauskas, etc. I'm not super familiar with each of these names, so maybe they were touted more for size/athleticism, but there's probably more you can find. And I'm excluding guys like Wiseman who seemed like bigs with good skills...but that just didn't materialize. Oh and you have Jimmer Fredette of course. I asked a variant of this question at some point, though I was looking more for high level processors. Some of those names I gave might have been great scorers/shooters, but I don't think that necessarily makes you a high level processor. I think if you limit it to that, the list might be smaller, though it is also harder (especially in hindsight) to fairly assign whether a prospect was a high level processor/feel guy. I do think your size and athleticism can limit you to some degree, but I think once you're past a certain point (i.e., not a 5'9" guy with a 28" vertical), you're *probably* fine? Certainly guys like Jalen Brunson, FVV, etc., have shown you can get by without a ton of size/athleticism, but not sure if a guy like Reed is at that level (or has the other traits those type of guys also have). Like I said, I'm happy to gamble on guys with high skill level, high BBIQ, high level processing, etc., especially if they seem somewhat comparable to other guys who have excelled in the NBA despite size and athleticism limitations. I think they tend to have *really* high ceilings, higher than most people think.
...the better question is after 3 years and being given the keys to the offense, how is Alpi not on the hook for his contribution to that problem?
Easily. Didn't Golden State have a starting 5 of Looney, Draymond, Iguodala, Steph and Clay? You don't have to have a lineup of 5 scores, you have to have movement. Green, Alpi and Jabari can all score and Sarr is not bad either. But a lineup of Jabari, Sarr and Amen would be great defensively.
Alpi contributes more than enough to make up for his lack of 3pt shooting. He averages 21/9/5 on 58 TS%. We can talk about his contribution to that problem when someone starts outproducing him. Not every offense is built on a shooter, especially when it comes to big men. Giannis, Bam, AD, Zion, Sabonis are featured scorers without range. They've also been in the league longer than 3 years and yet they aren't "on the hook", they're built around.
Small sample size but encouraging that when he’s handling the ball more he’s still extremely productive and the shot doesn’t suffer much. Would like the assist to turnover ratio to be better, however all things considered it looks good.
And where are our Curry and Klay? With Reed Sheppard, we would have one great 3-point shooter. Fred and Cam could be the other one.
I do like this comp but I think "better shooting" is understating it. Huge huge asterisk here that we've seen a lot of great college shooters who didn't translate to the NBA but...the dude is a jump shooter with a 70% TS. That's unreal. He shoots over 50% from 3 and he can shoot them off the dribble, he's not just a catch and shoot guy. He also has some self creation in the midrange. And again, big caveat, I just want to repeat myself, this stuff often does not translate to the NBA. But his shooting percentages are crazy, and a TS% that high is extremely unusual for a jump shooter. I think his biggest upside is generational efficiency.
I agree he has a chance to be a lot better than FVV--but I do want to state that I think Fred is an underrated shooter. I know he wasn't as good as Reed in college, but he turned himself into a very high-volume shooter in the NBA and has managed to do it while keeping his 3P% a bit above league average. He has been in the top 10 for three pointers made per game three of the last four seasons, and during that one down shooting season he was still #12. That's serious volume and I expect if he were playing more of a wide-open, catch-and-shoot role, he would easily be over 40% as a shooter. So, I don't take "better shooting FVV" lightly as a ceiling comp--that would make Reed easily one of the best shooters in the NBA.
I would take this guy with the 3# pick you need shooting and he does not hesitate to shoot the 3 so i would take him
