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[3rd pick] Who do you want?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., May 12, 2024.

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Who do you want with the 3rd pick?

Poll closed Jun 26, 2024.
  1. Trade the pick

    18.2%
  2. Zaccharie Risacher

    8.9%
  3. Stephon Castle

    1.8%
  4. Donovan Clingan

    9.0%
  5. Zach Edey

    3.4%
  6. Matas Buzelis

    2.1%
  7. Rob Dillingham

    4.5%
  8. Reed Sheppard

    43.2%
  9. Nikola Topić

    7.7%
  10. Dalton Knecht

    1.1%
  1. Icehouse

    Icehouse Member

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    I think it's a huge stretch to assume they win 30-40 more game by switching PG's and Wemby's position last year.
     
  2. Hemingway

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    They will have to obtain 2 close to all-stars to compete for the playoffs. If Wemby can stay healthy he is going to be a great player. He is not someone that can carry a team at this point in his career and if he doesn’t get better at 3 pointers he will not be a transformational player. I am 99.9 % sure the Spurs won’t make the playoffs next year, unless they spend absolutely all their draft capital to bring in all-star vets.
     
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  3. Easy

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    I'm sure they would win more games. But 30-40 more? Do you know how many teams won more than 52 games last season? 4. How many won more than 62 games in the past 5 seasons? 2.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    I said specifically they threw games, not that they would have won but they were going to be competitive in most if they really cared......

    30-40 games are solely a number, it might be that or fewer games, but you try to win them regardless of the end result.

    And yeah, I do think in Wembyland 23 winning seasons are a hollow number, you know what you have and that you can build a huge team around him......the potential is more important in this rare case.

    Of course you have to establish that early on and not experiment on it as Pop did because honestly he did not care that much.

    His priority was to build Wemby up for the NBA and everything came second. And now you can go all out and sign and trade for veteran players and stars.


     
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  5. OremLK

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    I doubt the Spurs improve very much next season--they have two top 8 picks in this draft class. They don't usually operate like one of the LA teams, New York, Brooklyn, Phoenix, Dallas. It seems more like their MO to just try to get the best players they can in the draft and keep growing organically. Wemby will probably get better, their other young players, but they're also going to be adding rookies who need minutes.

    Unless they drastically change directions as an organization, at best I think they'll sniff .500. Playoffs is very doubtful
     
  6. Easy

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    Well, you should have worded it more clearly then. You did say, "They lost at least 30-40 games because..." Adding the word "intentionally" would make the meaning of the sentence a world of difference.
     
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  7. J.R.

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    Yeah, of course, but I am not owing someone money that I have to be over-correct every time, some dudes are just out to nitpick at certain grammar mistakes and certain areas that are not clearly articulated.

    But quite honestly in the Offseason I do not give 2 rats arses, sue me when the Season starts, boys.

     
  9. OremLK

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    Well, that's Topic falling off the Rockets' board presumably. Really unfortunate for him. Somebody in the middle of the first round might end up getting a steal if they gamble on him being able to get/stay healthy?
     
  10. Snow Villiers

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    Wow... Topic might have to redshirt his rookie year.
     
  11. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    So after doing a deeper dive on Clingan, he’s definitely a no from me. The free throw shooting is the killer. He was 2 of 8 from 3PT range and 58% at the FT line.

    Never mind that he has no elite post game or 3PT shot or perimeter defense. He can be hunted on defense and hacked on offense. It will take at least 3 years to get him a 3PT shot and fix his FT issue. He also needs to be more muscular and ensure that he can physically bully people in the post since he has little speed - that will require at least 2 years of improving strength and post game. Why on earth would we put such a massive burden of development on ourselves?

    I see the dream with Clingan. Top 5 rim protector with a 3PT shot and a polished post game. I see him putting on a lot of muscle both upper and lower body and bullying people in the post with sheer size. I just think his 3PT and FT shot are like 3-6 years away from being like 36% and 80% on significant volumes. Nothing is for sure, some people never develop that much. I don’t think we need to be taking that big a risk with so many options available at the #3 pick. Just my opinion, no offense Clingan fans.
     
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  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Don't underestimate the impact having a true superstar can make
     
  13. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Man that’s really unfortunate for Topic but he’s 18 and will probably be dunking in a month.

    Still considering him with our pick. I think by age 22 he could be a lethal PG.
     
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  14. 9baller

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    What's the timeline for a partially torn ACL? Would he miss the whole season?
    Would this injury have any impact on his athleticism?
    Thanks
     
  15. saleem

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    I hope so. A team in the 20's can bring him along slowly. The Rockets mustn't pursue him at all.
     
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  16. Aruba77

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    well now that it’s officially a torn ACL, I’m pretty sure this would affect where he’s drafted. I don’t think it’s going to impact him long-term, but missing time early into your career definitely hurts the development timeline. And if teams are trying to decide between players who they have ranked similarly on their board, a torn ACL more than gives them a reason to go with the other prospect. I don’t see Topic as a top 5 pick with this news.
     
  17. j@amc

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    It's encouraging that the injury isn't long-term. His first season will be pretty rocky, but by 22 years old, he might be a force.
     
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  18. yixiixiy

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    Real issue is not the injury itself, it’s that it was inflicted with no contact. That really does not bode well long term.

     
  19. cheke64

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    This class seems to be all 2 to 3 years projects. I would roll the dice on who would be next years top draft choice. I like Cody W with the biggest potential.
     
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  20. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    I was thinking Washington would look at him hard. I'd guess they will look at Clingan, Sarr, or Risacher now. I'd assume it is Risacher as Sarr probably goes number 1.

    I liked the option of Risacher, Sheppard, Castle, Matas, or long shot Holland at No. 3. Well, down one guy likely.

    I think this really could put the screws on Detroit. I thought it was a good bet Matas would fall to them. Now, they are left hoping one of the Rockets and Spurs takes Castle. I'm a BPA guy, but their spacing is killing their ability to see how good the players they have are. I don't think they could play someone like Castle with Duren, Ausar, Ivey. I just don't think Detroit has the juice to trade up from 5 to 3.
     

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