The other Scandinavian countries have better healthcare and other things which we don’t have in the US which is why I cited the other Scandinavian countries and not compared it the US. So if you’re also willing to advocate for universal healthcare, social safety net and other things that Sweden has and the US doesn’t we can have a relevant discussion.
@Space Ghost doing his own research ... First @Space Ghost starts with his conclusion and works backward from there. I think that they call this ... the Scientific Method.
Almost half of America are considered a fatty, and boomers are the largest demographic. When I think of a Swede, I'm thinking this Spoiler When i think of American, i think this Spoiler I'm no fan of boomers, but they were the target cohort for this disease.
They are both out of office. But don't even know how much either could be blamed for their Covid response... Covid hit hard and fast without much information to respond. Not even sure how much trump and the federal government could be blamed until trump started continually lying about the numbers and offering up insane treatments.
fact check: true. I’ve watched a ton of MSM clips from during the pandemic for previous videos I’ve made and recently I’ve watched a lot more. I have some amazing clips to post. My biggest takeaway though is how relatively rational the media was, relatively speaking, during the first few months of the pandemic. Believe it or not, they weren’t very anti-Trump during the first few months. Even the most rabid Trump haters were talking about China’s culpability and rational safety measures. Even Peter Hotez and Fauci were talking like normal doctors. It wasn’t until the media realized that the pandemic was a way to get rid of Trump, who was on his way to an easy victory before the pandemic, that they all started losing their minds. It was like within one week the entire media realized the opportunity they had and they all jumped on it like a b**** in heat. All remaining integrity or desire to be even remotely useful just completely disappeared. From that moment on, they existed to say the opposite of anything Trump had said. They had no interest in helping the public anymore. From the lab leak theory to hydroxychloroquine, every segment was about viciously attacking Trump. They didn’t care about anything except attacking Trump and his supporters and that continued into 2021. The entire ludicrous media attack on the unvaccinated was just hangover from broken people who no longer knew how to do anything else but spew hate. In my opinion, almost all the crazy misinformation the media spread during the pandemic was at its root still about Trump. I sincerely hope that they never recover from losing the public’s trust.
Well....maybe if your wanna be king hadn't lied at every turn and came up with the infamous "disinfectant" solution, a million people wouldn't have had to die.....but your narrative is the big bad boogie man "the media". I don't blame trump for Covid, that would be dumb, but what he did with the information he had was DEADLY.................kind of like how he told the truth to Woodward but lied to us "This is deadly stuff," Trump told Woodward in a Feb. 7 phone call. “You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump told Woodward, according to The Post. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu.” The book says Trump was given dire warnings in January about the virus that would lead to a worldwide pandemic in March. “This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency,” national security adviser Robert O’Brien told Trump on Jan. 28, according to the book. “This is going to be the roughest thing you face.”
We had exactly the same kind of power-drunk bureaucrats in Germany also (called Drosten and Montgomery (met him a few days ago)).
It's easier to blame Fauci when your main goal during the pandemic is to pretend it's no big deal so you can rally around the country bragging about what big crowds you can gather (of course after he makes them sign a waiver to protect his own butt), golf, golf, golf, fundraise, golf, golf, golf, fundraise, and spread as many lies as you can about how few Americans are dying compared to the rest of the world. Trump never cared about the dying. He was just pissed off that it inconvenienced him. He actually encouraged people to do the worst things you can do during a deadly pandemic. Mr. Selfish loves blaming everyone but himself. Always has and always will.
From https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1797798090621231565.html People asking why this is factually incorrect…I’m at a conference today so am pressed for time but I’ll quickly address each of the 5 “key points.” Bottom line: You can dress up unsupported horseshit in as much polished data viz as you want, but it still stinks. Yes the virus emerged in Wuhan & the WIV is there & studies SARS-related CoVs, but that’s where the truth ends. Shi Zhengli’s lab does great work on SARSr-CoVs, but they aren’t the only lab in the world doing so. They aren’t even the only lab in China doing this work. In fact, people all over the world have been studying these viruses—including those isolated from bats—since SARS1 emerged in 2002. In the US, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore, the UK, the Netherlands, Japan, France, Canada, and so on Fun fact: early in 2020 I joined a WHO Expert Group on experimentally modeling SARS-CoV-2. Multiple folks from China were there, none of whom were from WIV or Wuhan. SARS-CoV-1 emerged in China, so many labs there study these viruses. Wuhan isn’t special & WIV is one of many. This is a little confusing, since the “defining feature” isn’t actually defined by the author. But she means the furin cleavage site. She also neglects to mention this proposed work was not funded (thus likely didn’t occur) & all the FCS insertion work was to occur in the US. And could this work have been done despite the multimillion dollar grant intended to support it? Sure. Is there evidence that this work was carried out anyway? None whatsoever. Most people don’t apply for DARPA grants they don’t need if they already have millions lying around Yes the WIV did SARSr-CoV work at BSL-2 (consistent with the BMBL, the US’s standards for bat SARSr-CoVs). No, this isn’t appropriate for SARS-CoV-2. However, there is zero evidence that WIV had SARS-CoV-2 or a progenitor in their collection. No SARS2 at WIV, no lab leak. That’s pretty simple. It doesn’t matter what containment level the WIV was using for other SARSr-CoVs because those viruses are not SARS-CoV-2, nor could these viruses ever become SARS-CoV-2. The viruses that WIV was known to have are more closely related to SARS-CoV-1. Even the most closely related SARSr-CoV (RaTG13) in WIV’s collection is different by more than 1100 mutations across its entire genome. No amount of insertions, mutagenesis, or passaging in cells, transgenic mice, bats, or whatever else can make it SARS-CoV-2. I’m closely related to my sibling and my parents. If I got cancer or HIV (which would cause mutations/insertions/recombination of my genome), it would not turn me into my brother or my parents. Similarly, the WIV’s SARSr-CoVs can’t turn into SARS-CoV-2 at any containment level. This is just plain incorrect. The hypothesis was published with enough supporting evidence to pass a rigorous peer review and be published in Science. The papers have not been retracted. And just because a small but outspoken group of people—primarily those without any relevant professional or domain expertise, including the author of the NYT piece—claim these papers are disputed, debunked, or aren’t “strong” evidence doesn’t make those claims true. If anyone can provide a legitimate analysis or plausible alternative explanation for these multiple threads of evidence, then they should submit it for peer review by experts and publish it in a scientific journal. So far no such paper has been produced. Here’s a summary of the Worobey et al 2022 paper. Critics have had 2 years to challenge these results scientifically, providing additional evidence or a compelling alternative interpretation of these data. These papers & their findings have not been substantively challenged. Finally, no **** “key evidence” is still missing. The role of the market in the pandemic’s emergence was covered up in ways that didn’t apply to SARS1 or MERS. The market was closed. Live animals were removed. Clearly evidence was suppressed, not collected, or not made accessible However, that doesn’t mean the evidence we DO have doesn’t support market origin. Existing affirmative evidence isn’t invalidated by a lack of other types of evidence. Again, I have yet to see an alternative explanation for the multiple threads of evidence supporting zoonosis. “No infected animals at the market” (because samples weren’t taken to look for said infected animals) doesn’t disprove all the other evidence that very clearly points to the market. Evidence isn’t a carton of milk. It doesn’t expire if you don’t find it. Intermediate hosts of SARS1 and MERS were not found in days as claimed and sometimes they are never found. It took years to find the reservoir for Marburg virus. Nobody debates that it is zoonotic. Supposedly this was fact-checked by @nytimes—not well enough. This matters. Watch this clip of Dr. Fauci talking about the sickening threats made against him & his family. Factually incorrect claims like those in this piece encourage these threats. It is grossly irresponsible to say that these 5 unsupported claims mean the pandemic “probably” started with a lab leak. They misrepresent the actual evidence and put people like Dr. Fauci at great risk. The @nytopinion has shamed itself by printing untruths & outright lies.
Shut this damn thread down already. For nearly 4 years, if you lefties in here don’t get it by now that it’s a plandemic then nothing can help you except for perhaps another Covid booster shot?
