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Houston offered "several" Nets picks to Brooklyn for Mikal Bridges

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HealthyHamstring, Jan 31, 2024.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    He should, but I hope he won't.

    I would say his absolute ceiling is Curry, his more likely outcome is Mark Price, the floor is JJ Redick with better passing and defense.
     
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  2. TEXNIFICENT

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    Well IF he’s going to be Mark Price, the Rockets should turn in the Pick now and trade Van Vleet. Price was an all- NBA 4x.

    I’m just not sure about the lofty comps you guys are casually tossing around, but it damn sure sounds good!!! LOL
     
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    No, he will surely take a few years to get there. FVV is not that old. Would be ideal for him to learn from FVV for a couple of seasons.

    Mark Price didn't peak in his first two years either. Neither did Steve Nash, Stockton (who was actually a terrible 3-point shooter his first three years in the league), etc.
     
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    It's a real longshot for him to be as good as Mark Price. He doesn't have the ball handling/pg skills that Price had...

    Mark was picked with, what, the 25th pick...
     
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    Sheppard is super you g and physically undeveloped relative to NBA standards. I see a lot of G-League for him this year. Hopefully he plays some regular rotation minutes in 2025-2026.

    And that’s fine!
     
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    Dillion Brooks, #3rd Pick, 2026 1st round pick for Mikal Bridges
     
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    Too much man. Maybe if we throw in Landale and Tate, they throw in DFS.

    Alternatively we could try to get Cam Johnson, DFS and a good Suns pick for Brooks, fillers and #3. They can convert Brooks into a FRP and an expiring contract I’m sure.

    I’ve been thinking Cam Johnson might be a downgrade from Brooks but we also get a great backup 4 in DFS. Cam, Tari and Amen can totally handle the best guard/wing scorers every night. Improves our shooting with Cam or Tari replacing Brooks. Cam can challenge Cam and Jalen for SG minutes too. We also get a good future Suns pick.

    I think that’s a good move if we want to mostly stand pat but improve the depth and shooting of the roster while rolling over a draft pick.
     
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    How is this a ridiculous comment? In go ahead shots in the playoffs Steph Curry is 0-12. Look it up. He 0%. Not saying he isn't a great player but there was a reason KD took most of the game ending shots cus he could easily get off a better shot than Curry could create.

    This year he did win clutch player of the year but it was more of an outlier year than his seasons in the past. He's historically under performed in the clutch in the playoffs and is bailed out a lot by his teammates.

    Max Kellerman is always a troll but there was some logic behind his Iguodala take lol.
     
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    Mark Price a 2nd round pick, was an elite player. For his career he accumulated an 71.1 WS, which was 3rd highest in his draft class. Unfortunately they Cavs kept running into the buzz saw Michael Jordan Bulls.

    The Chicago Bulls and injuries derailed Mark Price’s thunder.

    So, If you can get Mark Price out of this draft, it’s a win!
     
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  11. Nook

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    He did shoot with a relatively slow release to start the year at Kentucky. It was a biproduct of him having a 40-inch vertical, and him actually wanting players to crowd him so he could try and turn the corner.

    By the end of his freshmen season, his release was faster - and I am sure it will only get faster in the league.

    He shoot 50% from outside of 20 feet, I am not worried about him being able to adjust how quick his release is - especially with his vertical and with him being 25-30 feet from the basket. By the end of his freshmen year, they were picking him up at half court and he struggled at first, but adjusted and would still get his shot off and get more layups and assists as well.

    His size concern is a valid concern. He is short and he isn't long - but the release to me isn't a real long term concern.
     
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    Yeah - it was slow to start the season, but wasn't by mid season. Also the video is deceptive because some of the "slow release" video is when there is no one within 5 feet of him so he takes his time.
     
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    Sorry Nook, the set-up was too perfect
     
  14. vince

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    Mikal
    Mikal Bridges deserves the respect and acolytes. He is among the top 7 best players that came out of his draft class.

    Unfortunately he is playing for the lowly Brooklyn Nets. His high Basketball IQ requires competent teammates, to fully take advantage of his style of play.

    His win share is equivalent to an all-star, but he doesn’t score at the high level to deem him posh by the media. But he’s an absolute heavyweight in carrying more than his share of impact on winning basketball.
     
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  15. Zen Tabak

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    True, but Price didn't have the defensive anticipation and hands on defense, either. Price was also significantly shorter.

    Sheppard isn't like to have the run of ~8 APG seasons Price had, but I personally think he's the best comp around.
     
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    Mikal Bridges might have the best PR in the NBA, specifically since he was traded to Brooklyn.

    There is no objective evidence that says Mikal Bridges is a player worth multiple lottery picks.

    - His advanced metrics and impact data, in multiple team contexts, have been consistently OK but not particularly very good. There is no respected all-in-one metric that says Mikal is a top 50 player. He was in the 60th-100th range this season by EPM, Darko, RAPTOR, LEBRON etc.
    - He grades out as mediocre-to-poor in on ball actions whenever put in that role
    - 35 players received all-defense votes this year (including Dillon Brooks)... Mikal Bridges wasn't one of them
    - He shoots 37% from 3, with 90% of his 3's being assisted. Takes essentially zero self-created 3's. Again OK, but nothing special
    - He's not young

    Even the supposed Houston offer of Jalen + BKN picks for Mikal turned out to not be accurate... we now know that it was in fact Jalen + BKN picks for Mikal + PHX picks. We also now know, from Iko's reporting, that Houston isn't interested in cashing in assets for players of Mikal's or Ingram's level. The FO is aiming higher or not at all.

    I just don't get it. Never seen a serious case that Mikal Bridges is one of the 50 best players in the league. On a per minute basis, there is a strong case that Tari and Amen are currently already more impactful wings than Mikal Bridges. Why would anyone want to trade multiple lottery picks for him?
     
  17. Plowman

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    Amen.

    Great post.
     
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    People overlook that nurture vs nature part and that environment plays a role in development as well.

     
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    Golden st. Doesn’t win 1 ring without Curry. Not one.
     
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