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[3rd pick] Who do you want?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., May 12, 2024.

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Who do you want with the 3rd pick?

Poll closed Jun 26, 2024.
  1. Trade the pick

    18.2%
  2. Zaccharie Risacher

    8.9%
  3. Stephon Castle

    1.8%
  4. Donovan Clingan

    9.0%
  5. Zach Edey

    3.4%
  6. Matas Buzelis

    2.1%
  7. Rob Dillingham

    4.5%
  8. Reed Sheppard

    43.2%
  9. Nikola Topić

    7.7%
  10. Dalton Knecht

    1.1%
  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Castle's defensive hustle looked very impressive, but his shot is broken. We already have Amen and Tari.
     
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  2. Strawberry Gum

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    I'm starting to get impatient. Why can't the draft day come sooner? This board needs new hot topics.
     
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  3. Snow Villiers

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    Damn Castle shot 27% at UConn?
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    He built that Castle with bricks.
     
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  5. Aruba77

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    I feel like the top guys in this draft have huge weaknesses. Rather than trying to draft for fit, I think we should take the guy that we think will end up being BPA and have the best value. That’s why I’d include Topic and Castle in the guys I’d consider drafting at #3, even though the shot is a question. I do think having Amen and Topic is like rich people problems ;). Someone might give up the farm for Topic if they think he’s the next big thing.
     
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  6. MaxRider

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    They don't call it the weakest draft since 2013 for no reason.
    How can the draft with Giannis consider weak?
    Giannis was 15th pick. He was raw and skinny.
    That year Rookie of the Year was 11th pick Michael Carter-Williams.
     
  7. ROXTXIA

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    Ah, this is your first offseason on the BBS.

    It's always like this in the offseason. Actually, it's better than most, given the unexpected #3 draft pick. After the draft, as an NBA fan, you have free agency, the summer league, and months of jack-shizzlenit.
     
  8. J.R.

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    Castle: 11/5R/3A on 47FG/273PT/76FT/55TS (34 games) (20-75 3pt)
    Holland: 21/7R/3A on 45/24/76/58 (14 games) (12-50 3pt)
    Buzelis: 14/7R/2A on 45/27/68/55 (26 games) (24-88 3pt)
    Topic: 15/6A/3R on 50/31/88 (23 games) (26-85 3pt)
    C.Williams: 12/3R/2A on 55/42/71/62 (24 games) (17-41 3pt)
    Knecht: 22/5R/2A on 46/40/77/58 (36 games) (93-234 3pt)
    D.Carter: 19/8R/4A on 47/38/75/60 (34 games) (84-223 3pt)
    Risacher: 11/4/1 on 47/39/71/59 (65 games) (92-238 3pt)
    Reed: 12/4/4 on 54/52/83/70 (33 games) (75-144 3pt)
    Dilly: 15/4A/3R on 48/44/80/60 (32 games) (64-144 3pt)

    *stats via realgm
     
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  9. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Yes but important to consider offense. JJJ can shoot but he’s not a very good shooter. Jabari might actually end up a far better shooter.

    JJJ just this season learned to be average in the post. I think Jabari is going to be better inside the arc overall.

    JJJ is interesting because he’s the perfect rim protector to pair with Sengun and Jalen but you then you’ve created another problem you have to upgrade your shooting at SF. JJJ, Sengun and Brooks are not good enough shooters to start together in the front court.
     
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  10. Plowman

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    Jabari is a much better rebounder and shooter. (JJJ is a defensive beast, but is soft on the glass) And, I'm covinced his overall game is on the come as he matures.
     
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  12. Little Bit

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    I’m not sure I would do it and I’ve been pretty hard on Jabari, mainly because I know he can do better. I want to see what his 3rd year looks like. Don’t want to give up on him too soon.
     
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    I don't think Grizzlies would be willing to part with JJJ.
    But they could be up for a swap of Brooks and Marcus Smart, in order to get the pick swap as well.

    I can see Udoka being interested in a reunion with Smart.
    Plus, it would beef up the defense at the guard position while reducing the current backlog at the small forward spot.
     
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    Holy overreact :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    You realize any of the guys we take will be sent to the GLeague right? I don't see anybody beating out core 6+FVV and Brooks in the lineup.
     
  15. palmsnbananas

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    Castle looks like trash to me
    He's a good defender .. ok great can he actually do what he's supposed to which is shoot or run an offense? If he can't do that then what is he even doing on the court? All these guys have major flaws if they didn't they'd be a consensus top tier
     
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    Yup can probably do better. One single solitary player in the league that scores more than him that’s younger. And that’s Victor W. Maybe give him another week or two. Or something something.
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...t-player-comps-all-14-projected-lottery-picks

    Zaccharie Risacher, SF, Bourg (France)

    High end: Khris Middleton with more defense
    Low end: Trey Murphy III

    Risacher brings a lot to the court as an athletic, 3-and-D wing with room to expand his game on both ends. While not likely to become a No. 1 option on offense, as he gets more comfortable playing off multiple dribbles and develops as a shooter, it's easy to see him becoming a viable wing scorer a la Middleton, who has had an outstanding run in Milwaukee, including a title in 2021.

    Risacher should also offer more defensively, where he has plus-lateral agility and should be switchable. There's a high level of two-way upside here if one can get past the limited shot-creation ability. Floor-wise, provided Risacher continues to improve as a shooter, you can envision him functioning like Murphy currently does for New Orleans: bringing excellent size and athleticism coupled with quality floor-spacing and defense, but without creating a ton of offense for himself or taking many dribbles.

    Alex Sarr, PF/C, Perth (Australia)

    High end: Jaren Jackson Jr.
    Low end: Nic Claxton

    The blueprint for Sarr's role at the next level is something like Jackson, who gives Memphis high-quality spacing and elite paint protection while toggling between power forward and center. Sarr has a long way to go as a shooter to get to Jackson's level, but that ceiling is within reach for him, with a huge, mobile frame at 7-foot-1 that makes him an excellent long-term prospect.

    If he doesn't develop at that rate, Sarr could still be a solid contributor along the lines of Claxton, who has fashioned himself into a useful defensive-minded role after five seasons with the Nets but hasn't taken a major leap on the offensive end.

    Donovan Clingan, C, UConn

    High end: Rudy Gobert and late-career Brook Lopez
    Low end: Walker Kessler

    Clingan's advocates around the NBA view him as a potential top-flight defensive center in the realm of Gobert, presuming he can stay healthy and continue to improve his body. His elite measurables, at 7-foot-3 in shoes with a nearly 7-foot-7 wingspan, give him a unique physical presence. Even if he doesn't reach those heights on defense, Clingan projects to be a more versatile offensive player than Gobert, and if his 3-point shot develops, he could function somewhat like Lopez, who turned himself into a quality floor-spacer and top defensive center midway through his 16-year career.

    At worst, it feels like Clingan should end up somewhere around where Kessler is right now (and granted, after just two seasons, his development is far from over), as a huge defensive big who can impact the game in drop coverage and protect the paint.

    Reed Sheppard, PG/SG, Kentucky

    High end: Steve Nash
    Low end: Payton Pritchard

    Nash is certainly a lofty name to start with for Sheppard, but it reflects the optimism from scouts that has helped him boost his draft stock as a likely top-five pick. While his role at Kentucky didn't let him play point guard full-time, the upside lies in Sheppard's ability to make plays in transition, knock down shots and develop half-court creation.

    His knack for making the right play and impressive shooting splits give him a chance to outkick expectations. Of course, it's always hard to bank on a star-level outcome, but Sheppard should be able to find a role as a top bench player at worst thanks to his shooting and basketball IQ.

    Matas Buzelis, SF/PF, G League Ignite

    High end: Chandler Parsons
    Low end: Kyle Anderson

    Buzelis is an interesting player to project at this point in his career, with a well-rounded base set of skills at his size (6-foot-10, 197 pounds). If he can make strides with his shooting and ball skills, he could go the route of a bigger wing like Parsons, and potentially offer more on the defensive end, where he has exhibited prowess blocking shots.

    Buzelis fits a pretty safe mold as a skilled combo forward, and if he doesn't make big strides as a scorer, he should still have a solid career as a rotation player because of his versatility, similar to what Anderson has carved out for himself.

    Stephon Castle, PG/SG, UConn

    High end: Andre Iguodala (Golden State version)
    Low end: Justise Winslow

    While Castle doesn't have the same quick-twitch athleticism of early-career Iguodala, the role the latter played in Golden State as a multi-positional stopper and secondary playmaker lays a good blueprint for the type of value Castle could provide in the NBA. Castle hopes to play point guard full-time, and if that transition proves successful, that probably changes the parameters for comparison. If he remains in more of a versatile role, he could fall somewhere on this spectrum, with a name like Winslow illustrating some of the downside if he doesn't make strides on the offensive end.

    Rob Dillingham, PG, Kentucky

    High end: Darius Garland
    Low end: Bones Hyland

    Dillingham's creative playmaking and long-distance shooting has drawn comparisons to players such as Garland and Trae Young, but scouts acknowledge the wide range of outcomes for guards his size (6-foot-2, 164 pounds) in the NBA. If he makes a quick adjustment and proves capable of handling starting minutes, he has the shiftiness and scoring ability to be a potent scorer and playmaker.

    If things go the other direction, Dillingham may wind up as more of a microwave option off the bench, which could lead to some longevity, but isn't what teams are hoping for with a top-10 pick.
     
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    Dalton Knecht, SF, Tennessee

    High end: Bojan Bogdanovic
    Low end: Max Strus

    Knecht, 23, was a three-level scorer in college and has a chance to translate that into a long-term NBA scoring role. Finding the longevity of a similar type of scorer in Bogdanovic, who was also an older rookie after coming over from Europe, would be a terrific outcome and justify his likely status in the lottery.

    If Knecht doesn't score quite well enough to help anchor an NBA offense, he could still find success in a supporting role similar to what Strus has done over the past few seasons.

    Nikola Topic, PG, Mega MIS (Adriatic League)

    High end: Josh Giddey
    Low end: Tomas Satoransky

    Topic enters the league further along than Giddey in terms of on-ball prowess, having demonstrated that this season in Serbia. He might wind up somewhere along the same vein, as a jumbo playmaking guard with the size to fit into a variety of lineups.

    While Topic is a good free throw shooter and highly efficient in the paint, he faces some of the same questions as Giddey did about his long-range shooting, but his feel for the game makes him a good bet to have a solid NBA career regardless.

    Tidjane Salaun, PF, Cholet (France)

    High end: Jerami Grant and Kyle Kuzma
    Low end: Maurice Harkless

    While still at a very early stage of his development, the 18-year-old Salaun has demonstrated growth this season and has an intriguing mix of physical skills and two-way potential. He can be an effective scorer and floor-spacer at both forward spots, and leans toward a perimeter-oriented role despite having the size to defend bigs.

    His flashes on both ends of the floor portend upside in the mold of a Grant or Kuzma. But there's a ways to go here, and while he seems to be on a positive developmental trajectory, without leaps in the skill and feel departments, Salaun could end up as more of a back-end rotation player rather than a starter.

    Ron Holland, SF, G League Ignite

    High end: RJ Barrett
    Low end: Josh Jackson

    Holland has always been a productive player, earning him accolades in high school, but the questions about his game center on how his shooting, efficiency and decision-making will translate in the NBA. He's a physically mature player who will have to find an edge in other ways, similar to the adjustment Barrett continues to face five seasons into his NBA career. Jackson was similarly viewed as a prospect with a high-floor skill set, but never made major strides offensively after landing in the NBA.

    It's probably lofty to expect a huge efficiency jump from Holland, but he'll have to find the right balance of scoring and playmaking, and likely get used to not having the ball in his hands as much.

    Cody Williams, SG/SF, Colorado

    High end: Otto Porter Jr.
    Low end: Troy Brown Jr.

    The inconsistent nature of Williams' season in Boulder makes him a tricky player to project, but the long-term idea is that he can offer versatility on both sides of the floor at his size on the wing. He needs to get stronger and make significant strides as a shooter and ball handler, but the long-term concept could be something like Porter, who played more on the ball at Georgetown and needed multiple NBA seasons to become a reliable 3-point shooter.

    If Williams can be consistent from deep, make plays when needed and defend across the perimeter at a high level, he can be an indispensable type of player long-term. But without becoming more consistent, adding strength and improving his skill level, the downside might be that he ends up more of a bench player.

    Devin Carter, PG/SG, Providence

    High end: Marcus Smart
    Low end: De'Anthony Melton

    Carter's tenacious defense, physical style and plus length at both guard spots call to mind players such as Smart and Melton. The variety of things he can do creates a pretty solid floor, and teams value his reliability and view him as a safe option. The upside lies in whether he can play point guard and run a team for long stretches like Smart, giving him extra lineup versatility.

    If not, he could still succeed in a Melton-like role, as more of an off-ball guard who defends the point of attack, makes enough shots to space the floor adequately and can function as more of a secondary handler.

    Ja'Kobe Walter, SG/SF, Baylor

    High end: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    Low end: Gary Trent Jr.

    Walter profiles as more of a true two-guard due to his size (6-foot-5, 198 pounds), but has the makings of a prototypical off-ball wing who can knock down shots and defend his position well enough to stay on the floor. Most NBA scouts expect his 3-point shooting (34.6% on 6.3 attempts last season) to improve over time, and he's shown the ability to make shots off movement. His plus length (6-foot-9.25 wingspan) helps him project out adequately on defense.

    He's not much of an on-ball creator yet, but should be able to provide enough spacing and potential to expand his skills. There's a relatively safe pathway for him to help someone, but the upside might be more like that of a reliable 3-and-D wing such as Caldwell-Pope.
     
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    Knecht could be a mix of both Bogdanovices......Bojan and Bogdan (Boch-dan)

    Those Balkan Dans.....
     

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