Funny enough, if a team had talked about drafting Sengun #3 overall, the "experts" would have told you that was drafting him too early yet he turned out to be one of the best in the class. Now we're going through that again with Sheppard.
I just don't understand why any Rockets fan would suggest trading him. I mean he's one of the top 3-5 low post scorers in the world, who has incredible court vision, and plays hard. His outside shooting will improve and I'm encouraged to see him incorporating boxing into his training regime, because that should level up his stamina and hand/eye coordination. We finally had players who could give him good low post entry passes last year and we saw a glimpse of how he can dominate. Add more capable shooters around him and watch out... it's gonna be fun next year!
I'm gonna get attacked for this, but if we draft Sheppard, we could be set for a decade of contention. Best case scenario I see is pairing a center with a similar skill set to Jokic with a combo guard with a similar skill set to Steph Curry - and the perfect other guard to complement each other's weaknesses (Sheppard: size, Amen: shooting) as well as one of the most impactful role players in the league in Tari. Plus, Bari, Cam, Jalen (if still here), Fred and Dillon (if still here), Adams...omg.
If we had better shooting from the guard spot last year we would have made the playoffs. Adding one of the best shooters to ever come out of college seems like a smart idea. Give Alpi good shooters and he will carry this team a LONG way. I can easily see him averaging close to a triple double with players who can make shots off his passes. Amen cutting to the basket with Cam, Bari, FVV, and hopefully Sheppard nailing threes, with Tari doing his thing, watch out. And lastly if Jalen actually decides to be a factor for an entire season rather than a single month we will be a force next year. Even if Jalen doesn't come to play I like the possibilities if we do not waste over half a season trying to get him going.
My only real question is how does Udoka really feel about Sengun? Is Sengun somebody that Udoka really wants to build around? Does Udoka look at Sengun like “yep that’s our guy to help lead us to a title”?
Not really, though. Sheppard didn't have enough 3-point attempts to qualify for an NCAA record, either career or even single-season, but here are the guys who shot better than him from 3 in a season: 1. Micah Mason .5603 2013-14 Duquesne 2. Markus Howard .5467 2016-17 Marquette 3. Nick Masterson .5409 2016-17 Kennesaw State 4. Roosevelt Moore .5329 1992-93 Sam Houston 5. Travis Ford .5288 1992-93 Kentucky Any GM using a #3 pick to select one of this bunch would have been out of a job in a year or two. Of the top 50 all-time best college 3-point seasons, only Kyle Korver at #48 even made a slight impact in the NBA. Sheppard's all-around game will get him a draft spot in the top 10, but you don't draft college 3-point specialists hoping to find a star. There were over 150 guys who shot better from 3 in college than Steph Curry.
I looked all these guys up, before you made that post. None of them had the all-around game of Sheppard. Not close.
By all means, having found a young, talented player who shows both the will to learn and the ability to develop his game, let’s trade him away.
Exactly. If Udoka is really so obsessed w/ having a Clingan or Adams starting at center, Im worried. There are a few players that Alpi could bring in via trade that I could live with BUT Id rather build around Sengun/Adams (2 year extension)/Smith(stretch 5) Smith/Eason Amen Cam FVV/Amen/Shepp 8 guys. Add additional stud with MLE.
Very concerned about sengun and his comeback from injury he was an undersized c that relied on his athleticism to get rim attempts . yes he’s young , but still . Until I see him in action again I’m going to be worried . And i think that even in a good scenario he will take some time to ge track in rhythm
Markus Howard was 5' 11", Roosevelt Moore was 5'10" and Travis Ford was 5' 9". Mason and Masterson didn't really do anything other than shoot. Basically, you just did a comparison with 5 guys who weren't NBA draft prospects. I agree with you, no GM would/should use #3, or any pick for that matter , to draft any of these 5 guys you listed since they aren't NBA level players. So how is that comparable to Sheppard? I don't believe that anyone is advocating drafting a player at #3 overall solely on their 3 point percentage. It's the fact that you have a guy who's played in one of the best conferences in the nation, is a good passer and defender and had the highest vertical at the combine and he shoots 50%+ on 3 pointers and he has a quick release. If you're looking for comps, then you need to find guys who can contribute in multiple ways and still shoot a ridiculous percentage on 3 pointers. Otherwise, your comparison makes no sense, it's apples to oranges. Question: The year Mason shot 56%, it was on 65/116 shooting. When Moore shot 53%, it was on 73/137 shooting. So why would Sheppard's 75/144 shooting not qualify for an NCAA single season record? What am I missing?
I wouldn't say that Sengun relies on athleticism to get his shots. It's all about footwork and being crafty. He's not really out-quicking anyone or jumping over people.
I won't argue with any of that. I wasn't comparing Sheppard to those guys as all-around players, I was just pointing out that the guy who said "Adding one of the best shooters to ever come out of college seems like a smart idea" had flawed logic. I'm not completely sold on Sheppard as a future star, but in this draft I'd be fine with the Rockets picking him. I wondered that myself. It's that way on every NCAA single-season leaders chart I could find. Kinda weird if the reason is that none of those sites have updated with last season's stats.
Assuming that we're talking about legitimate draftable NBA prospects, then I think that statement is valid. To find a prospect that can shoot like that and be able to do many other things is extremely unusual. Even if Sheppard doesn't become a star, he provides a skillset that could be huge for a team like the Rockets. I bet you are correct about Sheppard not being listed on all time stats is simply because thise sites haven't been updated with the latest season.
Mobley over Green should've been the pick. I said it then, but people were drooling over Green dunking and aau highlights
This is just posting with malicious intent. If you had the time and the 2 brain cells to pull those stats, you should already know what separates Sheppard from those. If you can't, then it is right to assume that you have zero-IQ, zero-brain, zero-insight.
