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[Info] - Eddie Griffin Update

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Stack24, Sep 20, 2004.

  1. Khal80

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    kidd and rodman wer already proven when those teams picked them up...eddie hasnt done crap and it still "potential" thats why you cant compare
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    Lol, funny.

    Even so, EG is easily worth the risk, I can understand why Rudy would pick him up. If he does sign with LA, it'll be even harder to root against Kobe's team. Is it really wrong to hope for injury on a certain player?
     
  3. wizkid83

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    When that cancer blocked KG's baby hook straight up (I've never seen that before), it's always worth taking just one more chance.
     
  4. Stack24

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    I really think that most people on this board if they were to throw out all the things that he did outside of basketall, they probably all agree the guy had some major raw talent...he wasn't projected to be the number one overall pick that year for nothing...he had what it takes to be a star in the league except for the fact his mental state was not the best.

    He would have been what we needed on this team if only didn't have problems and stuff, and we all wouldn't be here saying with need a 4.
     
  5. xiki

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    It would be interesting to me to know where he is really at right now in terms of both basketball and non - basketball.
     
  6. Stack24

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    Well all i got out of the conversation is that he is doing really well and John Lucas is still helping him out a lot. Also that EG is just staying away from a lot of things and trying to keep a low profile so he can concentrate only on basketball and his life rather than let outside things bother him.
     
  7. wizkid83

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    See I just have this feeling that he's willing to put all this mess behind him and start afresh. The way I see it, you don't really mature until you are atleast 21. I definitely think I'm a lot more mature as a senior than I was as a freshmen in college.

    These couple of years between 18 - 21/22 are huge for some people. I've definitely seen a lot of ppl going through complete 180 on personality during that span. This is why I still think that he can get over the mental hurdle and become a solid player. His work ethic however, might still keep him from becoming a great player.
     
  8. xiki

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    I appreciate the words. But, what is the reality? Maybe the words. Maybe not. If I knew I'd know whether to root for or against the guy.

    Luke, BTW, has done wonders with lots of people. (But not all. He's not G-d, after all.)
     
  9. Stack24

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    i would honestly like to see the guy succeed even if he isn't in a Rockets uniform. It would have been nice to have him but it just didn't work out...who knows what the future is going to hold but if he can really get his life together and play the sport that he loves then he should be fine and it will make for a nice documentary on ESPN.
     
  10. Pat

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    I can't help but agree he is tempting, but what exactly did he show us. He played a fair amount of minutes, so we actually saw his talent. But look at his weaknesses.

    He never developed a "go to shot". His three point ability was nice, but you have to admit it was an ugly shot and he only made so many because he took so many. Corect me if I am wrong, but about a month ago werent we dissing point guards as bad outside shooters wh put up the same perecentages as Griffin from the line.

    He never developed an inside game. He doesn't bang, and he was not a good rebounder. Call me a traditionalist, but those are skills I want my PF to have.

    And most importantly his defense was horrible. I will admit that he was a good shot blocker but he often was overall abused on defense. I remember him being burned so badly over and over again that we had to bring in Mo Taylor. Mo Taylor for god sakes.

    Like everybody else here, I am loyal to the Rockets (am actually wearing a red logo shirt as I type) and of course we want "our guys" to succeede. Eddie is one of our guys. Excuse me, he was one of our guys. He blew a great chance for fame and fortune and he just hasn't shown enough to be given a second chance buy the very hand that he bit.
     
  11. Stack24

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    Pat i agree with your points to an extent but i guess i would have to say that he really didn't get a chance to develop those skills like he should.

    I really don't know why in the system he was really never used inside. They always kepted him up on the top shooting threes. He was a monster rebounder in college and im not sure why he never became as physical in the NBA that he was in College.

    I know we can say that about a lot of players in the league right now that were monsters in College. I guess overall i just saw the skills he had in college and equate it to what he could have been.

    Maybe he is one of those people that will always be known as a baller in College but never get the system to work for him in the NBA.

    It's a shame but hey i still saw talent in him if he only could have focused on developing it.
     
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    Griffin was instructed to play more often in the low post by JVG but he said he preferred to shoot from the outside. He didn't refuse to go inside the paint but he seemed hesitant about the idea.
     
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    His lazy a$$ is too skinny to go inside from not bulking up.
     
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    rodman was really proven when he was signed by dallas, Proven to be a turd. He had the potential to perform at his level in chicago, thas why he waspickd. Eddie has the potential to perform at his college levels, thats why he would be picked.
     
  15. tbowman

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    I'll tell you a couple reasons why Rudy want's EG in LA:

    1) He traded for him (he liked him before, he still likes his talent)

    2) They've been through some of the same sort of lifestyle with substance abuse, and Rudy knows that people can change.

    Just because the guys had some problems doesn't mean he's past the point of return.

    He knows he threw a lot of money and a great lifestyle away.

    He wants that back; he's working hard and I think he'll get it.

    Remember when Rudy got his DWI back in the day? Should he have been blackballed for that? EG is just human too, give the guy a chance.
     
  16. Lemarc

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    Oh goody, I am now vindicated because now I know that Rudy T is indeed mentally ill...Do the Lakers need someone else to push out of town? Do they need someone that Kobe can belittle like he did any other guard in his backcourt...Does Lamar Oweedom need a Thelma & Louise running buddy? And if this deal does go through; doeas Rudy T need to be fired again?

    Yes, I believe that the step down was just a formality because he was here so long...I luv the guy, but his coaching is something that 80% of the league's coaches can do much better than he can.

    But Kobe and the gang will LOVE until the LOSE column fills up like a rich man at a gas station.

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    "This has been a rality check and I an through!"
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  17. wizkid83

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    Did Griffin even play for JVG?
     
  18. Stack24

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    Just like 3 games in the preseason thats it. Before he went AWOL
     
  19. TheFreak

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    That must be why the Rockets' win total went up so dramatically after he left.
     
  20. hooi

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    I got two words for you:

    Jerry Tarkanian


     

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