You know….MAGA never says he is not guilty, only that system is rigged and he should not have be prosecuted. LOL. If it was Clinton that had done the same thing…” Lock him/her up!
I thought you were referring to that when you brought it up in the context of Trump's trial. We agree; they aren't comparable. Trump had a fair trial by his peers.
For the record, I would have lied my sweet ass off during jury selection, claiming that I get all of my news from Truth Social, just to give the prosecution a solid reason to remove me.
First, I don't personally see it as a victory. It's super f'ing sad for this country to have a former president in this situation. But if we believe that nobody is above the law, and some of us want to believe that, then this process needed to move forward. He's been a rule breaker his entire life, and is one of the the most often-sued individuals on planet earth, one of the most audited people ever (long before politics), etc. So at some point, unless we give him a lifetime pass, the chickens have to come home to roost. But in terms of "nobody's opinion," you would need Professor X like powers, to inhabit the minds of all people in a nation, all at once. (And sorry, actually, someone who spoke at Trump's Jan. 6 rally has already tweeted that the GOP needs to drop him, now, and pivot to a candidate with morals.) Honestly, we have no idea. We can agree that Trump's diehard voters will not change their opinion of him, true. Trump has said he could murder someone in broad daylight and they (you?) wouldn't change their minds. And FOX News, NewsMax, a ton of X tweets and Russians bots, will keep carrying the orange water 24/7. Absolutely true. And it won't change the opinion of diehard liberals. But there are plenty of people who aren't diehard FOX viewers or diehard liberals. I can't figure out how all of those individuals will feel about 34 convictions in this case. Understand the contortions though. To see this verdict as illegitimate, and all the Trump scrutiny as false, you have to never look at Trump's actual behavior. If he blew through a stop sign and struck an old lady in a crosswalk, would you ask about the political affiliation of the old lady and the cop who pulled him over? The lady would be seen as a liberal who threw herself in front of Trump's car. And the witnesses who saw it all happen... they too would be liberals, prone to concocting a story. Like, Draymond Green only gets suspended b/c people don't like the Warriors. The referees who called flagrant fouls were not simply following the rule book but were just crooked to the core. There really wasn't a crotch kick or an eye poke or a karate chop to some dude's face. Any fan who witnessed it was biased. And finally, nobody's opinion of Draymond Green changes when he gets suspended. Okay. Maybe true. I don't know. I'll admit I already thought Draymond was a violent jackass, just based on watching him play basketball. And the analogy works well in at least that one aspect.
By all means. Do you really think any of us are going to say that we shouldn't prosecute people who have committed crimes? Their current or former professions do not matter.
John A Lucas asked for the rules. The rules are that if you falsify business records in order to hide payoffs because you think it will help you win an election, that is a felony, and you will be held accountable. The whole effort to disregard the verdict because it took place in the nation's most populous city, is a pitiful attempt to pretend some places in the United States are really America and the other places in the United States aren't really America. That somehow only right leaning states can be fair and unbiased when holding trials. But that places in left leaning areas are incapable of listening to evidence and making a fair judgment. But convicted felon, Donald Trump chose this venue when he committed his felonies in this area. The case will be tried where the crime was committed. Trump committed these felonies in NYC. The verdict wasn't because of a weaponized DOJ. The DOJ didn't try this case. The DOJ didn't select the venue. The DOJ didn't select the jury. The Democratic Party didn't mandate that this happened. It happened when Trump committed the crimes of which he's been convicted. It wasn't rushed. It was methodical and followed the rule of law. Trump was given some preferential treatment along the way. Politicizing the justice system and DOJ is a threat. The Republican nominee in 2016, 2020, and 2024 promised in each of those elections to weaponize the DOJ. He campaigned on locking up political opponents in prison. He is vowing to do the same now. Yet, none of his supporters feel that is a danger to the nation. It only becomes a danger when the person who broke laws is convicted, because they like him. Where was John A. Lucas in 2016? Where has he when Trump used his office to try and frame his political opponents? Where was he this campaign while Trump has been campaigning on freeing his convicted criminal allies, but using the justice department to go after his political opponents?
And just like that Trump will go up in the polls again, what the corrupt left does not get is that people are watching now and their elections and law are no longer valid. They can convict Trump of every crime in the book and people will still vote for Trump because their law is no longer just and equal. When Trump wins in November all these people are going to get investigated.
He might. Many on the GOP side seem to have a hard time grasping the idea that justice should be applied equally. Trump ran on locking up his political opponents in 2016 and that seemed okay to them, and it seems okay that he is running on freeing his criminal political allies now and using his potential DOJ to go after political opponents. The GOP seems to think it's normal. It is a particularly GOP characteristic.
Trump supporters would blame a woman for Trump raping them, call it fatherly love when he fondles his teenage daughter on his lap, then turn around and call illegals the rapists and Democrats the pedophiles.
I agree with you. It is truly sad we have reached this point in our country. Our political system is a mockery across the world. Unchecked corruption has been running rampant for decades. The question should be, why must we wait for someone as awful as Trump to get a conviction, and yet its nothing more than a hand slap felony. Politicians AND business people should be in jail. Trump knows and understands the system. He is a product of the system, not an anomaly. When I stated 'nobodys opinion', it was spoken in hyperbole ofc. But we do need to be honest with ourselves. Nothing much has changed. And most of the 34 counts are nothing more than repetitive journal entries. Its like convicting someone of trespassing but counting each step as a separate conviction. Sure, it makes for great headline news for the 'extra informed' individuals who never read past the headline. I digress. If anyone is truly interested in politics and governance, they would instead focus on the authoritarian/populist theme instead of simping for the team on the voter ID card. I have little interest in the Republican/Democrat soap opera theme. There is a significant uptick in the global populist movement and people should be more concerned. The 1930's was the last great battle between the two movements and we know how that turned out. The green analogy works well! GJ!
So who is up next? Please name the next politician we should be bringing to trial. And to be fair, pick one from your team. Perhaps pelosi? Claw back all those millions she has made? Elizabeth Warren? I suspect you have little interest.
