1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Case to Draft Reed Sheppard at #3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Medicine N Music, May 20, 2024.

  1. bustamove

    bustamove Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2024
    Messages:
    1,083
    Likes Received:
    929
    Or bust

    So high usage low efficiency chucker who had all the chances minutes touches greenlight but still hasnt improved his shooting after 3 years and even got worse
     
  2. bustamove

    bustamove Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2024
    Messages:
    1,083
    Likes Received:
    929
    He's all flash chucker but no substance
     
  3. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,432
    Likes Received:
    13,390


    I’m SHOCKED that this is the case.

    SHOCKED!!
     
    DaDakota, Shark44, Amel and 3 others like this.
  4. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    38,082
    Likes Received:
    29,505
    6 of the top 10 didn't make the playoffs.
     
    BaselineFade, JW86, cheke64 and 5 others like this.
  5. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,312
    Likes Received:
    5,202
    This isn’t how the board works. You are supposed to spam every thread dozens (or hundreds) of times with an absolutist take confidently predicting the future based on your years of watching from the couch. If anyone doubts you or suggests shades of grey, insult them. If anyone starts a thread about anything else, pull it back to your take.

    If anything happens to make your point invalid, ignore it while you can, change the goalposts when you cannot, then hope things turn back your way so you can get back to your absolutist opinion.

    That’s the formula, right DD and BtG? I look forward to your next three hundred repeats of the same post.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    You still have to make them...

    Makes sense to pick up one of the best 3-point shooters since Curry.

    Draft Sheppard!
     
  7. Bo6

    Bo6 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2010
    Messages:
    4,352
    Likes Received:
    6,867
    I think the volatility makes a lot more sense when you look at where he started. He played 16 games in his first serious year of basketball in the G-League. Compare that to him playing in college (35-40 games) or overseas (40-50). That's a massive gulf in experience and live repetitions. Think about how many games you need to mentally prepare and go through your routine.

    It's no coincidence that players coming from Europe are taking over the league. They are being exposed to the pro-cycle at a really early age (Luka was like what 15? when he started playing Pro Basketball). Hell, you can even point at LaMelo playing probasketball in Australia / Eastern Europe and then jumping right into NBA action without skipping a beat.
     
  8. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    98,891
    Likes Received:
    48,810
    And they scout and develop sneaky athletic skilled guys in Europe and have them set the NBA as their goals.

     
    Rudyc281 likes this.
  9. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,458
    Likes Received:
    65,179
  10. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2008
    Messages:
    13,780
    Likes Received:
    5,719
    While I agree, draft Reed, I don't feel like Steph is the best comparison for him even if it's just shooting wise.

    I view him as a more compact version of Klay Thompson.

    Dude is a sniper in a CP3 like point guard's body.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,484
    Likes Received:
    31,949
    A shot that most players shouldn't take.....but if you can hit them like CP3, and Sheppard can, then it's a viable shot for you.
     
    clutchdabear and Snow Villiers like this.
  12. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    15,285
    Likes Received:
    18,524
    We are paying the max to a guy who profiles as a similar player to Sheppard. In fact, Sheppard is a much much better prospect than FVV was. I don’t understand why folks don’t think he’s worthy of #3 in this draft.
     
  13. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    20,075
    Likes Received:
    17,692
    I mean, to be fair, FVV was undrafted and has to work his ass off to become what he is today. I agree that it's a good comparison though--I think if Reed maxes out on everything, he could be something like FVV if he was a 45% / 40% shooter instead of a 40% / 38% guy. That's a great player because now you're talking like 21 and 8 on excellent efficiency.

    But Sheppard has a lot of development to do to reach that outcome. Getting to that point is not by any means guaranteed, or even likely.

    I agree Reed is a vastly better prospect than Fred was coming out of college, though, and probably worthy of #3 in this class (especially if Sarr & Risacher are off the board).
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-...holds-firm-at-no-3-in-latest-espn-mock-draft/

    Reed Sheppard holds firm at No. 3 in latest ESPN Mock Draft

    It’s looking more and more like Reed Sheppard will be a top-three selection when the 2024 NBA Draft opens on June 26 — conveniently Stacey Sheppard’s birthday — in Brooklyn. What better birthday gift for mom than going No. 3 overall to the Houston Rockets?

    That’s ESPN’s projection in a new mock draft released by Jonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo, holding firm at three after rising to that spot in a previous update on May 12 following the lottery. He hasn’t been outside the top three since April 17 when he was previously projected to go No. 7 overall.

    Reed Sheppard goes No. 3 to Houston

    Now, he’s seen as the best college prospect in the draft, behind only Zaccharie Risacher of France and Alex Sarr of Australia — Olivier Sarr’s younger brother, interestingly.

    “Should Houston stand pat at No. 3, continuing to add shooting will likely be a priority after it finished toward the bottom of the league last season,” Givony said of Sheppard. “With that in mind, adding a sharpshooter such as Sheppard, who converted over half of his 3-point attempts and proved capable of playing on or off the ball, could be attractive. Sheppard’s unselfishness, feel for the game and sharp defensive instincts could make him a strong fit alongside the Rockets’ core.”


    Rob Dillingham goes home to Charlotte at No. 6
    From there, we got minor movement on Rob Dillingham‘s side after sticking at No. 4 for a few updates, falling two spots to No. 6 overall. That would bring him home to North Carolina, playing for the Charlotte Hornets.


    “With less than a month to the draft, Charlotte has been connected to perimeter players, with the team said to be high on the long-term future of Mark Williams — which might preclude drafting Donovan Clingan as an option here,” Woo wrote. “Other names to watch for the Hornets include Cody Williams and Ron Holland. But Dillingham’s shooting ability and playmaking make him an attractive fit as someone who can play alongside Ball and Brandon Miller in the short term, and also offer long-term cover at point guard (depending what happens with Ball).”

    What about Justin Edwards and Antonio Reeves?
    So there are two top-six picks for the Wildcats — both coming off the bench under John Calipari this past season. From there, you get another sliding in at the end of the first round in Justin Edwards, who has performed well in pre-draft workouts and at the Combine.

    He’s slotted to go No. 29 to the Utah Jazz — Mark Pope’s old neck of the woods.

    “Edwards did not have the season many expected at Kentucky, but he’s still worthy of consideration in this range of the draft. Standing 6-7 with some perimeter shooting acumen and upside to grow into after one season in college, Edwards ranks No. 28 in ESPN’s Top 100,” Givony wrote. “The Jazz have multiple picks at their disposal and can afford to take a swing on a player many considered a top-10 candidate entering the season.”


    And then to close things out (literally), you have Antonio Reeves coming in at No. 58 overall — the last spot in the draft. That pick is going to the Dallas Mavericks, bringing him to a team that just advanced to the NBA Playoffs with Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic. He’d be going from one winning situation to another.

    Deserves to go higher, but we’ll take it.

    First Round Projections
    1. Zaccharie Risacher – Atlanta Hawks
    2. Alex Sarr – Washington Wizards
    3. Reed Sheppard – Houston Rockets
    4. Stephon Castle – San Antonio Spurs
    5. Matas Buzelis – Detroit Pistons
    6. Rob Dillingham – Charlotte Hornets
    7. Donovan Clingan – Portland Trail Blazers
    8. Tidjane Salaun – San Antonio Spurs
    9. Dalton Knecht – Memphis Grizzlies
    10. Nikola Topic – Utah Jazz
    11. Ron Holland – Chicago Bulls
    12. Devin Carter – Oklahoma City Thunder
    13. Ja’Kobe Walter – Sacramento Kings
    14. Cody Williams – Portland Trail Blazers
    15. Zach Edey – Miami Heat
    16. Jared McCain – Philadelphia 76ers
    17. Tristan Da Silva – Los Angeles Lakers
    18. Johnny Furphy – Orlando Magic
    19. Kyshawn George – Toronto Raptors
    20. Carlton Carrington – Cleveland Cavaliers
    21. Isaiah Collier – New Orleans Pelicans
    22. Kyle Filipowski – Phoenix Suns
    23. Kel’El Ware – Milwaukee Bucks
    24. Yves Missi – New York Knicks
    25. Tyler Kolek – New York Knicks
    26. Bobi Klintman – Washington Wizards
    27. Baylor Scheierman – Minnesota Timberwolves
    28. DaRon Holmes II – Denver Nuggets
    29. Justin Edwards – Utah Jazz
    30. Kevin McCullar – Boston Celtics
    What do you think of those potential landing spots for the former Cats?

    For the rest of the mock draft, click here.
     
  15. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    38,082
    Likes Received:
    29,505
    I'm hoping Ime to like Reed's hustle on defense and "making the right read" on offense, which he kept saying Jalen needed to learn.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
  17. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    15,285
    Likes Received:
    18,524
    As I’ve done more research on Sheppard, some analysts have said that they don’t think he has great handle, and ultimately it caps his ability to be a starting point guard. What do others think?
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    They said the same about Curry.

    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/stephen-curry/

    Weaknesses: More of a 2-guard than a point Must develop as a point guard A decent passer and ball handler, but still must improve considerably in both areas and learn to play the PG position in order to make it in the league … At 6-1, hes far too small to play solely at the 2G position … Had a solid 1-1 A/TO ratio (for a freshman who plays mostly off the ball), but can improve upon that Lacks great athletic ability, although he shows good quickness … Body is on the small side, short arms and lack of great natural body strength … Lacks great visibility and competition level at mid-major Davidson…
     
    clutchdabear likes this.
  19. JW86

    JW86 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    8,448
    Likes Received:
    10,730
    I'd take him, but I don't think he's on the board at 3 unfortunately.
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    That worries me too. I just hope the two teams ahead buy the hype on Sarr and Risacher.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now