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Mike Scotto: Rockets will shop the No. 3 overall pick ahead of the draft in hopes of landing a star

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, May 28, 2024.

  1. ThatBoyNick

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    Some definitely were, but no, there have been the same comments throughout the year, and this off-season.

    I recall clutch getting "vibes" from the FO about CP3 a month or so before CP3 came, and he's been implying pretty consistently that the vibes on Senguns future here are uncertain - and to be clear, uncertain, not doomed, or a done deal.

    It's obvious enough that the FO (and/or Ime?) has had questions, we ruthlessly pursued Lopez for a reason.
     
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  2. roslolian

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    Lopez was pursued also before Sengun broke out this year. Sengun grew an inch in the summer and became really good defensively prior to those I can see why the Rox weren't all in on the Sengun train.
     
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    More like "there's no one worth drafting that can really help us now".

    Would Sarr size and shot blocking help? Sure, but is he available at #3?
    Would Risache help? Maybe, we have too many wings. Who's going to play and who's going to sit?
    Would Sheppard shooting help? Yes, you'll basically replace Holiday with him. And there aren't many min going between him, Amen, and Cam. When everyone is healthy. And we still got Eason, he's more SF than PF.
     
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    I prefer try to figure out who the Spurs is after with the 4th pick and take that player before them.
     
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    Which is very valuable. You do realize that most of the future picks in these star trades rarely amount to anything, if they ever convey at all, right? Teams give them up because they expect the player they trade for to vault them to title contention, which usually happens. A locked-in #3 is much more valuable than many seem to realize.
     
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    We do!
     
  7. ThatBoyNick

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    Again, it's not "weren't", it's still. Re-read the first line of what you replied to.

    I can understand not agreeing with it, but I'm just sharing what it is.
     
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    Do you really think they give up Mobley and Garland for let's say Jalen Green and a version of Sheppard/Clingan/whoever.....

    It is even a miracle if they consider trading one of them (plus fillers) for AD or KAT who are way more established than Jalen Green or the 3rd pick.

    • I doubt they view Green as much as we here do or the Green fans here.

    • They are really not wanting to part with Garland (those tweets or X. com messages are miscontrued IMHO)
    • Evan Mobley is being their version of Chet Holmgren even though he might not be as good but they rather trade Donovan Mitchell than him that is how far up the totem pole he is for them.

     
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    The problem is not that, Green is more valuable to the Rockets than to any Playoffs team because he is so inconsistent.

    And you are probably not getting Alex Sarr who will be the most consistent among the Top 2 with the 3rd pick......

    Why would Cleveland give up their future so they can jumpstart with inconsistent Jalen Green and an unknown mediocre or above average 3rd pick?

    Garland is only 24 and Mobley 22.....so the only guys I imagine tradable are Mitchell, Strus, Jarrett Allen.

    Jarrett Allen is available. Obviously Mitchell is only available if he wants out.


     
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    My fear also. Sheppard on the Spurs wreaking havoc with Wemby would annoy the hell out of me. Please don't let this happen. Don't overthink this. Sheppard is a better-shooting Derrick White, which is an elite role player. He's an inch shorter than D-White but is a considerably better and more explosive athlete. He's the ultimate glue-guy who has a high bball IQ and makes all the right plays while while playing his tail off defensively and shooting the 3 at an elite clip. This is a no-brainer pick to me. Really hope they don't screw this up.
     
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    You do not get to be a better Derrick White, Derrick White has earned it in this league.....has gone through pains.

    But pick him anyways.

     
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    DWhite is a good defender Sheppard will likely be a bad defender in the NBA.

    I guess we will see what the FO thinks.
     
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    No. I didn’t think that specific trade was realistic at all, which is why I bolded the statement I was referring to. A #6 pick in any draft if far more valuable than a bunch of future picks in the 20s.
     
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    That’s a bold statement to make for a guy that’s never played a single playoff game. Zion has missed a total of 54% of the regular season in his career. He’s only played in 184 out of 400 possible games.

    As for DM. He’s taken all of his teams to the playoffs as the clear cut #1 option since he was a rookie. Taking those Jazz teams to the playoffs every season he was there in the ultra competitive (every year) West would suggest he is a “game changer”. Especially when you look at those rosters/supporting cast or lack there of.

    Let’s think about the impact of that compared to someone like Devin Booker since they’re the same age and play the same position. Book is generally viewed very highly around the league. It took Booker 5 years of finishing at the bottom of the West before finally making the playoffs in his 6th year (thanks CP).

    DM elevates his PPG/Rebs/Assts and FG% in the playoffs compared to the regular season. Meanwhile Harden’s playoffs numbers take a dip all across the board. You’re right. They are definitely not the same.

    If the asking price of DM is only Jalen Green (everything everyone wishes JG becomes one day) and an uncertain #3 pick + filler we absolutely take that deal. I’m not even a big DM fan but I’m not gonna deny what he’s capable of. He’s absolutely a franchise player. You get the first one and you worry about the rest after.
     
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    The Rockets aren't a win now team.

    The Rockets will be moving on from FVV and hopefully Jalen Green by this time next year. You'd be drafting someone like Sheppard to be the replacement for one of them while Amen is the replacement for the other.
     
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    Then yes, I can see that.

     
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    Sincere question: how are you so certain that there is still ongoing organizational uncertainty regarding Sengun?

    You mention some things Clutch said during the course of the year, but I would argue that Clutch might not be the best source regarding Sengun because his own personal biases against him as a player probably color his perception of what he hears or doesn’t hear.

    And you mention the pursuit of Lopez, but that was a year ago and before Sengun broke out and anchored a top-10 defense.

    So, legit asking, why do you say it is still a thing?
     
  18. rockets1995

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    Retype "Only Me"
     
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    That won't happen Fred I think will be here Long Term.

    There were Alot of Offensive Schemes Fred knows how to Run and the Younger are learning everyday with Fred advice.Fred was on that Championship Team with the Raptors.

    Real Question for Amen Thompson is can he reach Tyrese Halliburton level of improvement in his Creation on his Assists to open Shooters and Create his Own 3 Point Shot.

    Jalen Green, Alperen Sengun I think will get a Contract from the Rockets.

    Jabari Smith long term I am not sure about.
     
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    I think they look to free up some cap room after this season and if you have a young backcourt of Amen and Sheppard ready to go, it makes sense to move on from FVV.

    Sengun certainly gets a new contract.... but unless Jalen miracles himself into a completely different tier of player, I doubt anything is offered at all and the team simply moves on from the bust if they can't find a trade partner to dump him on.
     
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