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[3rd pick] Who do you want?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., May 12, 2024.

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Who do you want with the 3rd pick?

This poll will close on Jun 26, 2024 at 2:52 PM.
  1. Trade the pick

    18.6%
  2. Zaccharie Risacher

    8.9%
  3. Stephon Castle

    1.8%
  4. Donovan Clingan

    9.2%
  5. Zach Edey

    2.8%
  6. Matas Buzelis

    2.0%
  7. Rob Dillingham

    4.7%
  8. Reed Sheppard

    42.7%
  9. Nikola Topić

    8.2%
  10. Dalton Knecht

    1.0%
  1. yixiixiy

    yixiixiy Member

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    Very funny and he is indeed a douche. He is also playing in the WC Final and wrecking havoc, at the age of 32, being a 6’2” guard.

    This also proved NOTHING that this guy claims, that injury to small guards tend to demolish their value more than the bigger guys.

     
  2. gmoney411

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    Advanced defensive stats are a lot less reliable imo.

    I responded to what I thought was a close minded comment and as this discussion has gone on nothing you've said has changed my mind. I've given you plenty of examples of why I think the way I do but you are so tied up in your viewpoint that you don't have any wiggle room to understand. Your standard for "proving" things is a bit ridiculous in such a subjective topic. Here is what I've already "proven"

    1. Mitchell is undeniably going to be 28 to start next season.
    2. If healthy he's going to get a huge contract
    3. Lots of smaller guards have struggled with injuries and maintaining all star level play past 30.
    4. He's never made it beyond the second round.

    Things also true

    1. He has only made an all NBA team once
    2. He didn't make an all NBA team this year (which is 15 positionless players.)

    If you don't understand my reasons for not wanting to trade for Mitchell and give him one of the biggest contracts in NBA history you are just being glib.
     
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  3. yixiixiy

    yixiixiy Member

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    LOL

     
  4. yixiixiy

    yixiixiy Member

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    It’s time to get back on track. Nothing in the past few days has changed my mind on Reed Sheppard.
     
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    Lol even worse than I expected. You must be a teenage kid with this approach.
     
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    Just so you guys know, someone told me that it’s fun to stay at the YMCA
     
  9. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

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    To be fair to him, you really do yourself a disservice ever mentioning, linking or even thinking about the Ringer when it comes to nba discussions lol
     
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  10. gmoney411

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    Lol I get it but that's just the first article that popped up when I googled. I'm honestly shocked someone so invested in advanced stats doesn't know the shortcomings of them when it comes to defense.
     
  11. yixiixiy

    yixiixiy Member

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    Says a lot about the thought process. Or lack thereof.

    I don’t know a lot of stuff. But at least I do my share of thorough research before getting back at someone’s poopoo arguments. Unlike some googling teenagers.

     
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    2024 NBA Mock Draft: Alex Sarr remains projected No. 1 to Hawks as international stars rise post-combine

    Reed goes at 4 to the Spurs
     
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  13. yixiixiy

    yixiixiy Member

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    Can find any advanced stats to back his claim without taking out the defensive side of things

    —>

    Let’s exclude them to save my a$$

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    Try to fool others by claiming that defensive advanced stats are sham

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    Let’s google it maybe someone did have the same idea

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    A ringer article shows up with the headline I like!

    I’m sure he didn’t even get past the title.

    Convincing.

     
  14. gmoney411

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    The accuracy of defensive advanced metrics shouldn't need thorough research. I don't trust ESPN journalism but I'd accept them as a source about Wilt scoring 100 points because I already know it's true and any decent NBA fan does too. You were questioning something so known that I saw no reason to search for a great source.
     
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    Go listen to The Rights to Ricky Sanchez Podcast from March 18, 2021. Go to the 28 minute mark and Morey talks about advanced defensive stats.
     
  16. yixiixiy

    yixiixiy Member

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    If there is a non-shooting top prospect that I’d bet will pan out shooting wise, it’s Stephon Castle. Shoots 76% FT in college (FT% being the most predictive factor for 3pt%).

    For comparison, Jimmy Butler shoots 78% on the charity line in college.
     
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    Whoever the Rockets eventually end up picking, I just hope he ends being better than whoever the Spurs pick at #4 and #8. The Spurs have a history of always making great drafts or picks.

    The Rockets have had a history of both and good bad picks.
     
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    People keep saying that this draft is really weak, but I'm seeing a lot of players with some serious potential outside the top 2.

    Guys like Castle, Topic, Sheppard, and Clingan may not become All-Stars, but they could still end up becoming starters and VERY good complementary pieces in a few years.

    I'm just hoping San Antonio don't luck out and make the right picks.
     
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  20. yixiixiy

    yixiixiy Member

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    An example / data point to support this hypothesis is Jalen Suggs

    In college he shoots 33.7% at the 3. But quite decent at the line for 75%. First two years in the league he was terrible from outside the arc, on aggregate a below 30% 3pt shooter! But his FT% has been steady at around 75%.

    This year, he’s an electric shooter from the 3pt line, a handsome 40+%

    Another great examples are Lu Dort, De’Anthony Melton

    The bottom line is, I buy Castle’s long term shooting ability. He’s a solid 1B / 2A option for me at the 3rd pick.


     
    #2100 yixiixiy, May 24, 2024
    Last edited: May 24, 2024
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