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Lance McCullers

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jim1961, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. Rockets34Legend

    Rockets34Legend Contributing Member

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    We need him back to help this starting rotation.
     
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    This isn't even a real person I'm pretty sure.
     
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    I am wondering about the timetable for Lance vs the 2022 timetable?

    2022:

    5/22: threw 10 pitches on flat ground and 10 @ about 80 mph from front slope of mound.

    7/22: started for Corpus throwing 40 pitches
    7/27: started for Sugar Land throwing 52 pitches
    8/2: started for Sugar Land throwing 76 pitches
    8/7: started for Sugar Land throwing 86 pitches

    8/13: started for Astros throwing 81 pitches.

    2024:
    Last report (5/13) he is throwing mid 80s from the mound but not yet facing hitters.

    He is much further along, but let's say 5/13/2024 is equivalent in recovery to 5/22/2022. That makes sense if they are being more careful.

    Let's say they give him 3 months instead of 2 before starting rehab. His first rehab start is 8/12 is 90 days.

    Instead of 4 days between starts, let's say they do 5 which has become the new norm, but since he is no longer healing, just ramping up, 4 starts should still be good.

    Rehab starts 8/12, 8/18, 8/24, 8/30

    Ready to start in Cincinnati Thursday 9/5.

    9/11 vs Oakland
    9/17 @ SD
    9/23 vs Sea
    9/29 @ Cle

    I think that would be very positive.
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    I think he’ll be back before that but it’s all guesswork and there’s a lot more downside than upside in terms of potential timeline changes.
     
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  5. IdStrosfan

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    We can hope.

    I was basically thinking unless there is a setback this is basically worst case.

    Fingers and eyes crossed.
     
  6. Snake Diggit

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    If I were the Astros I would bring him back as a RP. Less buildup time needed and less impact to the team if he gets hurt again. He can be built up again next spring.
     
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    I'd rather keep the young guys starting and set up a tandem guy for them incase they get a contusion or get in trouble. 3-4 innings a piece and bring in garcia or mccullers. I don't want to mess with the mojo of a young gun starter unless there's a problem.
     
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    @Nook can provide more insight, but I think that was dismissed because the medical staff feels regular work and routine are the best ways to prevent future injury?

    I know that was put here sometime previously.
     
  9. Snake Diggit

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    Seems like McCullers serving as a 2 inning opener in front of Brown or Arrighetti could be a great option.
     
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    If he is healthy, he needs to be pitching way more than 2 innings every 5-6 days.

    Lance has All-star caliber stuff. Health is really the only concern.

    If he's healthy and on the roster this team is better if he's starting every 5th-6th day and throwing 5+ innings per start.

    If he's throwing less than 5% of the total innings that's a waste.
     
  11. Castian Crew

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    This sounds like a guy trying to convince his wife that the best way to get out of debt is to buy a new sports car ;)
     
  12. Nick

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    Guys like John Smoltz and Gagne also said that being a reliever was far more taxing at times than being a starter. Not just from the lack of a routine, but you're supposed to be throwing max effort for those 1-2 innings, you're also warming up/sitting/posisbly warming up again depending on the game situation, and its harder to plan side-sessions/bullpen sessions in between appearances in case you need to tinker/work on certain pitches.

    Of course all relievers who possess a multitude of pitches and are able to harness command of all of them without necessarily max effort... should probably be starters. I know the organization has gone back/forth on whether Bryan Abreu could go back to starting... but his stuff still is playing up elite in the bullpen and we don't know what happens to his command/velo without max effort or multiple times through the order.
     
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    The medical staff’s track record on keeping pitchers healthy hasn’t been all that impressive.
     

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