Geen is missing something. He can make plays sometimes but he's slow a lot of the time when it comes to recognizing the defense and where to go with the ball He did improve defensively last year. But his shooting is also very inconsistent. Mitchell is much more consistent and a shot maker late in games. Something that I'm not sure Green can do consistently after seeing him for 3 years.
I’d be okay with a deal for him, but it does nothing for our future and he’s not that star that instantly makes us a deep playoff run type team, so rather pass.
I like the trade, but I don’t know if that’s true. The Knicks have 6 tradable firsts that they could offer (by my count). If they want him, they can probably get him, or drive up the price. If they would make your offer and stick to it, I could live with the results either way.
Garland was an all star before they got Mitchell. He averaged 22 ppg 8 apg at good efficiency. He's a high usage PG, and Mitchell is higher usage that takes away Garland's game, kind of like the Fox-Haliburton situation. If we get Mitchell, I hope he fits better with a star big man than a star backcourt guy
I really don't know about this one. Donovan averaged 60+ games the past five seasons, but he did have an outstanding playoff showing and is a consistent all-star. Jalen has to reach those heights but his ceiling has always been high, and it also depends if Mitchell signs an extension. I wanted to see one more year if he grows but it really depends on what the staff feels about Jalen reaching his potential long term. Also don't know if this is just a rumor and doesn't mean anything.
Just my take, but it seems Garland's lost a step, and that hasn't been reconciled with his conscience. Guy's gotta change his game....Right now, he's a Jack, building a brickhouse. Plus, Mitchell takes away from his game.
To be fair, Garland replicated the exact same 22/8 statline the following season next to Mitchell, with a slightly higher TS% too. I don’t think Garland’s dropoff this year is because of Mitchell.
Mitchell for Green and 2 future 1sts and filler ok Not on the table (not in order because it doesn't matter - not for Mitchell): Pick #3 Tari (if he's healthy) Amen Sengun Cam
The Rockets aren’t gonna get Donovan Mitchell for just Jalen and #3. If they did, he didn’t sign an extension. If he is signing one immediately after the trade, another young guy or two is going out the door as well. Remember the Cavs don’t have to trade him here or at all. Also food for thought, Donovan Mitchell has never played a full season. The last year he played even 70 games was his 2nd year. He’s going into year 8.
With Mitchell about to become a free agent, making 50 /yr, how much leverage do the Cavs really have? That would seem to be in the ballpark.
Honestly the gap won't be that wide and I say that as a Green fan who expects Green's shooting and instinctive passing to be improved next season. Mitchell will do the job very well and we can cover his weaker defense. It would not surprise anyone if Mitchell was a better scorer than Jalen next season given the age difference and track record. What would be preposterous is how many assets we'd trade to get Mitchell. If Green has figured it out as Udoka believes, we will have traded a lot for a slight upgrade. I'm not sure it's the safe move everyone thinks it's going to be.
You guys talking about giving up Jalen Green... AND the 3. AND FUTURE FIRSTS... Are way out of pocket. GTFO with that... Maybe I watched James Harden smoke Mitchell too constantly and too easily to get pumped. Bleh!
Yeah, I see Mitchell probably good on the Parker- Duncan and Ginobili team where he can start for Ginobili.
I gotta say a lot of NBA teams have been willing to pay a lot for Bird Rights. The leverage the Cavs have is that he's probably the best player available for the next couple of seasons that is under 30 (probably don't need the under 30 qualifier). I look at the Magic. I think Paolo is given way too much credit for Orlando's success, but Orlando has a pretty good team while taking a zero at PG. I think Mitchell makes them the 2nd best team in the East. The Magic have salary cap space so they don't have to send crap back in salaries to Cleveland which would allow Cleveland to bring in a third team. If I was the Magic, I'd pursue Mitchell harder than the Rockets.
