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Case to Draft Reed Sheppard at #3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Medicine N Music, May 20, 2024.

  1. KingCheetah

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    It's sad but true.
     
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    In my mind, the only way this works is if 1. Risacher continues playing really well. 2. Washington falls in love with Topic. These two completely unconnected things would have to happen for Sarr to fall to 3. I would say Risacher continuing to play well is more likely than Washington just losing their mind for Topic and ignoring all smart trains of thought. However, there is some possibility that they really like the mystery guard. This draft and the teams are unpredictable.

    Past Risacher and Sarr being off the board, I dunno. I'm not in love with Reed's size and ability to guard someone. He tries hard though and his true shooting splits are ridiculous for a guard. So, I understand the love of him. I really like Buzelis as well, but does he have time to develop here? Ehhhh... Past that, I'm not in on anyone.
     
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    I keep seeing people say “the lack of lateral movement”, that is just factually incorrect.
    His worst test is still above average, and that was the shuttle. Lane agility which covers all direction quickness was good to great.
    While his speed and vertical was great to elite.

    This shows up on tape as well, he constantly stays in front of his man and has good closing and recovery to make up for mistakes.
     
  4. cmoak1982

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    People making up underselling reach is dumb.
    I don’t know a single tester that would let a guy tank his standing reach.
    That’s a myth people like to run with
     
  5. MadMax

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    Williamson is to Josh Christopher as MadMax is to MadMax
     
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    Okay then his standing reach is smaller than FVV.
     
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    Literally everyone in the draft has done it against not-NBA players. That's the whole thing that makes it hard lol.

    As I said, its an issue - how much of one tbd.

    I have no idea the "rules" when it comes to workouts. My hope would be they get some of their actual guys (Cam, Amen, Jalen, Tari, Bari, whatever), and put them in scrimmages with Reed and see how he does.

    I do NOT put it past being an issue. It could be.

    Since TJ McConnel is a current white boy comparison. By comparison, Reed is slightly taller, and definitely stronger.
    They ran Lane Agility basically exact same time. Reed faster shuttle, 3/4 spring and ofc much higher vertical.

    Now.... no one wants to draft TJ McConnel at #3.
    It seems with Reed we CLEARLY get someone that is going to be better than this year TJ McConnel... but if not much better that would be disappointing.

    I'd be all on board with a different person... IF the draft was much better... or IF we had different needs. Given the ass'ness of the draft and team needs, he seems the perfect fit to me.
     
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    That’s fine. FVV is nowhere near the athlete Sheppard is either. Or the shooter.
     
  9. RC Cola

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    What is FVV's standing reach, and where did you find it? I don't really care about the combine debate with Reed. I just want to know because I was trying to find this information earlier and could never find anything (I could only see various height and wingspan measurements).

    Sorry if it was posted in the thread and I just missed it.
     
  10. JayZ750

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    I mean on tape, lateral speed is one of the few criticisms that stands out. It's not as bad as some might make it seem, but still, he does get beat occasionally defensively at the POA. But defensively he recovers great, and is an event creator anyway.

    The bigger "lateral speed" thing that stands out to me is just offensive "burst". He's not going to effectively juke-step or jab and blow by. He just won't.

    But that's "ok" to me. Picks, motion, and most importantly, and the part where a FVV would be immensely helpful, angles and body, will get him places.

    Similar to Luka for example, who uses no speed and entirely angles/body. Ofc Luka is 6'9 to Reed's 6'3 at best.

    Like I said in my other post, if Reed was 6'9 he'd legit have Luka like upside.
     
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  11. thegary

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    All I want to know is whether or not he’s as good a prospect as scoot.
     
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    OK I exaggerated. Shooting is the MAIN complaint. IQ and desire to win are the second most complaints. I don't want to include other nonsensical complaints like painting of nails etc.
    Arguing about his true size is not the same as complaining about he's too small. Who cares if he's 6'4 or 6'6 if he can shoot well, play good defense, and make good decisions on the court.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    1. BBall IQ
    2. Skills
    3. Desire
    4. Athleticism

    That is the order of importance....

    DD
     
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    Not even close.
     
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    There are hall of farmers that weren’t as good a prospect as Scoot was lol
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    Reed is better than Scoot in all the ways that matter.

    DD
     
  17. MadMax

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    I liked Scoot a lot and I don’t disagree
     
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    I'm not sure FVV's standing reach has been officially measured.

    He was 6'1 without shoes and had a 6'2 wingspan when that was measured.

    Both are shorter than Sheppard.
     
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    Who cares, call him 7'10 if you want, he's bad at basketball and that's what matters.
     
  20. lpbman

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    He was the consensus number two in a much better draft.... he'd easily be the top pick this year were he available..... unless John Deere declares last minute.
     

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