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Who do you THINK is going to win? (NOT WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR!)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Chance, Sep 18, 2004.

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Who do you think will be elected President on November 2 (Parenthesis pop.vote)?

  1. John Kerry narrow margin (Less than 1%)

    25 vote(s)
    15.4%
  2. George Bush narrow margin (Less than 1%)

    18 vote(s)
    11.1%
  3. John Kerry (Between 1 and 5%)

    27 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. George Bush (Between 1 and 5%)

    58 vote(s)
    35.8%
  5. John Kerry wide margin (More than 5%)

    12 vote(s)
    7.4%
  6. George Bush wide Margin (More than 5%)

    22 vote(s)
    13.6%
  1. Chance

    Chance Member

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    Honestly. This is not who are you voting for but who do you think will be elected (or selected just to honor the bumper sticker thread) President?

    In 1992 I would have selected Clinton if this thread had been offered. I voted for Perot but if I had been asked I would have said I think Bill Clinton will win.

    At this point, 9-18-04, who do you think has convinced the American people that the other guy is worse?

    I left Nader off.
     
  2. AntiSonic

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    Michael Moore said something on Bill Maher a couple of months ago regarding the accuracy of the polling system - that none of them are going to be accurate because they're not including a huge amount of 'unlikely voters' Bush has motivated to vote against him through his policies. Paraphrasing so I apologize if I butchered what he said.

    I see so much Anti-Bush sentiment all the time that it appears Moore had a point.

    A month ago, I would have said Kerry in a landslide. Now, it looks to be much closer, too early to tell.
     
  3. ROXRAN

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    Polls mean something or else they would be sunsetted like the idiotic "assault ban",...I'm glad kerry has stopped his "I'm one of you" act, and denounced the ban afterwards instead of before...

    People are seeing him for who he really is....The polls reflect this, and thinking logically it is plain to realize 4 MORE YEARS!!! :mad:
     
  4. bamaslammer

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    The Kerry campaign is imploding daily, as he meanders like the Mississippi sans message. Kerry is not a guy that energizes anyone, folks. He's a pompous plutocrat and it shows in the way he talks down to folks in every appearance he makes. I'm thinking this is going to be a landslide.
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think Bush is going to win and it pisses me off that the Democrats can't crush a guy who is unqualified, has never done anything in his life to deserve the job of presidency, and has gotten us into a war based on bad intelligence and is getting worse everyday. Its like a nightmare. I might not be Republican, but I can at least respect guys like Reagan, Bush I, Dole, McCain, etc. I don't even respect this guy.
     
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  7. Deckard

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    Based on who bothered to vote, there must be some depressed Democrats, Independents, and Moderate Republicans, intending to vote for Kerry, who think he's going to lose.

    I think Kerry is going to win. It will be extremely tight, but I have faith in the American people to rectify a mistake they made in 2000, that we have paid dearly for.

    And, god help us, if Bush were to somehow win, it might be time to check out other countries to retire to. My wife will be retiring in a few months and, though we've had no intention of leaving Austin, especially because of the lucrative opportunities here for her, I don't know that I could stay here and watch what is going to happen to the United States if this silly, dangerous, and incompetent man has another term. I fear for my children, and the country they would growup in if the worst came to pass.

    We have friends in British Columbia who would love to have us join them. It's spectacular... sort of a cross between the Swiss Alps and the Norwegian fiords. They live in a village, not far from a college town, full of art galleries and liberals. The village town council all look like people I used to hang out with in the '60's. There are hot springs in caves, in the mountains nearby, that are extremely relaxing. One of the councilmen, a redheaded guy with a ponytail down his back, and a beard like a Viking, lent me his little motorboat, pointed across the lake, and said, "Putter over there and cruise along the shore. (a cliff face rising straight out of the long, narrow lake) You'll see ancient Indian hieroglyphics. And take this... enjoy." And I did. But it gets damned cold in the winter. Maybe New Zealand instead.

    I'll be glad when this is over.
     
  8. Chance

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    Deckard - I would hate to see america through your eyes. I see a wonderful country with a strong leader. I see a happy nation. a prosperous nation. A confident nation. I think it is just you and a small minority of people that think this is the freaking endtimes. A very vocal, very small minority. It's the people that go to Dave Mathews Band concerts and when he is bagging on Bush rejoice in the decadence of disobedience. The crowd roars! But what you don't realize is that most of that crowd yell right along with Dave then go home to their wife, wake up, go to church, go to work the next day and dismiss the political fire from that night.they remember the music, not the rhetoric. You guys are seeing those people at the concert and saying, "wow. Here is 25,000 people in the heart of Texas that are pissing on Bush. Imagine how many there must be nationwide!" But it is only you guys that go home and post on the bulletin boards and call in to Air America. And you are disillusioned recalcitrant group that are feeding off of eachother, barely being noticed by the rest of the clear thinking masses. Or the brain dead masses. you guys are creating your own hype. It's not the masses. Regardless of what you think, the bulk of the country disagrees with you. And the masses will go to the polls and elect W. Even a bunch of the Democrats and the margin will be much, much larger than you think.

    And on November third we can all post on here who was right, who was wrong, who was disillusioned, who was clairvoyant, and who accidentally publicly admitted to file swapping p*rn.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    I picked Kerry %1-5.

    Based on the assertion that:
    1) By November the polls will still be in a dead heat and
    2) 3/4ths of the undecided vote normally goes to the challenger.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Chance - awesome post. Dead on. Especially about the "creating their own hype" part.
     
  11. rocketabc

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    How did you know?
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    I expect Bush to win (1 to 5%).

    I have a strong opinion on who I would want to win, but since I don't vote...
     
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    Three hurricanes have hit Florida in less than a month, with another on the way.

    God is a Democrat.
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    Come November 3rd, if the vote is split anywhere near like it was last time, I'd be hesitant to call anyone wrong or right about perceptions of the American public.

    And chance, no offense dude, but this comes off as one of those rants where you could just switch out "W" with "Kerry", "Democrat" with "Republican", and "Dave Matthews Band" with "Toby Keith" and it'd work the other way around. ;)
     
  15. mc mark

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    Now that's comedy!

    Thanks for the laugh chance!
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    That's funny, I would be frightened to see the world through yours.

    As do I, the best country in the world by far.

    We obviously differ here. I see possibly the worst president in my lifetime, which includes Carter. The only one that gives GWB a run for the worst president in my lifetime is Nixon.

    Where over a quarter of a million people, half a million if you believe some reports, protested the president and his policies during the RNC. Sure looks "happy" to me. :rolleyes:

    That has lost over a million jobs in the past three years AND has seen average median incomes decline for the first time in decades while median debt has risen to the highest level in history.

    Yes, confident that John Kerry is a much better man to run our country than GWB.

    You do realize that the country is split very nearly in half over this, right?

    Nice hyperbole.

    I just hope that y'all can put all of this partisanship aside when we have a Democratic president again. Probably not, with a GOP controlled House and Senate, Kerry might get impeached for letting his dog poop on the White House lawn two days after he is elected.
     
  17. ROXTXIA

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    If things stand as they are, Bush will narrowly win.

    I voted for Kerry by 1%. I hate to admit, but the Bush team is very good at politics. Not at leading, or governing, mind you. Bush lies so much he makes Bill Clinton look like Gandhi. Bush and Cheney were both cowards during the Vietnam War, for which I can't blame them; it was a BS war started by BS means (Tonkin Gulf incident, getting the American public inflamed over an unnecessary conflict.....hmn)....but now those cowards have been in charge at the highest levels, and are making the world an even more dangerous place to live in.

    Check out the issue of Rolling Stone from about two weeks back, a great article on Dick Cheney. Yes, RS has no love for Republicans, but the facts of the article are pretty scary. That Dick Cheney and his extreme militants are in charge is scary, scary. And Incurious George the non-reading Bible-thumping yet-never-asking-what-Jesus-would-do "President"? Needs to go.

    But I fear that Karl Rove has masterly turned a lot of Kerry's strengths against him. Now it's up to the debates and campaigning in the swing states.
     
  18. JPM0016

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    If George W. Bush is reelected, the world will not end

    If John Kerry is elected, the world will not end.
     
  19. Ender120

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    I agree with this statement.

    Now that we've established that the world won't end, however, you still have to decide who will run this country into the ground in the worse manner.

    For me, that person is GW, mostly because he's given me 4 years of evidence that nothing would stop him from doing it for 4 more years.

    At least people might start liking us again if John Kerry is elected.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    I would vote on who is best for Americans, not based on what some other country thinks. I couldn't care less if France doesn't like our President.
     

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