I'm interested in the topic, but still learning about the various incentive structures in US health systems. With various anti-kickback laws in effect, how is this legal (if true)?
This is what happens when you let a private company run healthcare. My gues, and it is just a guess, vaccinated children have less health problems thus saving the insurance company money in the long run.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-insurance-payouts-vaccines-345246681418 Not at all. Some insurers will tie payments to benchmarks like vaccination rates, STI screening, mammography rates, but it’s more punitive than enriching. The idea is that insurers want PCPs to promote preventative health measures so the insurer can avoid paying for preventable health conditions. Fewer and fewer physicians are paid in a fee for service model (independent, classic private practice) or they’re paid a salary if they’re employed (the trend). Pediatricians promote vaccines because they’re risk intolerant. Especially for preventable infectious diseases.
No. I favor smaller, independent health care delivery. The last 10 years have been private equity and university led consolidations of previously independent groups to the disservice of the actual patients.
I don’t believe you… this is more of an antivax slant. I have no idea if this is actually true (probably a bit of misinformation since it’s from Twitter) but insurance companies do want to incentivize savings. Vaccinations for preventable diseases do save money and lives… as they are much cheaper than treating measles in an ER or hospital.
It doesn't have to be that binary. The government should be able to provide an insurance option for all citizens and people should be able to supplement that with private insurance policies. Everyone else has figured this out to some degree.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-insurance-payouts-vaccines-345246681418 CLAIM: Blue Cross Blue Shield pays doctors a $40,000 bonus for administering childhood immunizations to at least 100 patients under 2 years old and an $80,000 bonus for vaccinating 200 children. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. ...
It literally took me about 45 seconds to find the truth..it's not hard to check things before you post them https://www.politifact.com/factchec...e-cross-blue-shield-physicians-arent-paid-bo/ No, Blue Cross Blue Shield physicians aren't paid a bonus to meet a vaccine quotas Blue Cross Blue Shield is an association of 35 independent U.S. health insurance companies. The association does not provide bonuses for vaccinating a set number of child patients. .
Yes many countries have a mixed system with a public system that provides basic healthcare along and then a private system for greater service care. The basic care system focus on prevention keeps prices down and health results better.
I just read the "fact check" "Politifact" links to carefully. https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...only-for-number-of-children-vaccinateden.html The Blue Cross Blue Shield Association's chief medical officer, Vincent Nelson, said that while it is true that most companies in the national federation of independent health insurance companies offer doctors and other providers incentives for vaccinating children, the Instagram post is mischaracterizing the intent of such incentives. He wrote in an email to Lead Stories: "Physicians/providers can be incentivized through their work with independent Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies but the implication in this post that physicians/providers pursue childhood vaccinations solely for financial reasons is false." Lead Stories asked the national federation several times to provide either a range, average or median of the dollar amounts of such incentives doctors and providers receive across the 36 independent companies. This is the national company's response: "We're not able to share any estimates because the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association does not do any contracting with providers. Value based contracts and these incentives are decided by each independently-operated BCBS company." "Politifact" quotes some of this, but then concludes "We rate this claim False." So, once again, the "fact checks" have to be read extremely thoroughly. The guy they quoted here works for the association of the BCBS organizations. What he actually says is: Yes, incentives to pay doctors more for reaching certain vaccination level targets exist But the doctors are good people, to claim that this is the SOLE motivation for administering more vaccinations is incorrect I don't actually know what the exact incentives may or may not be because I just work at the association and the individual BCBS entities set the incentives. So if you actually read the fact check carefully - and spend more than 45 seconds - you will see that the conclusion "we rate this claim false" is not at all supported by what the association spokesperson says. (Whether the claim made in the tweet is exactly true or not, I still don't know - but certainly, the association's chief medical officer's quote indicates that, directionally, these types of performance incentives DO exist.)
Hey, I want to give you a thumbs up for taking the time to read a long article and think about it carefully. I knew you have it in you.
Why didn't you read the AP link? https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-insurance-payouts-vaccines-345246681418
Of course it exists in some fashion…. Healthcare incentivizes things that saves money and produces healthier outcomes. Shocked face…. But this is just an anti vax thread if you had the ability to be honest
That's funny coming from the poster that hides under their bed when confronted with FACTS that destroy their idiotic beliefs.
