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The Hush Money Trial

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Apr 13, 2024.

  1. El_Conquistador

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    Stormy Daniels' testimony went off the rails -- it was extremely damaging to the prosecution's case. And the prejudicial nature of her sexual comments likely opens the door wide for a win on appeal for Trump (if necessary). Merchan will likely provide a limited instruction to the jury -- basically admitting that Daniels' testimony was prejudicial. Strong argument for appeal due to that mishap.

    Kimberly Strassel describes the Democrats' insidious plan to abuse our legal system for political gain:
    The lawfare strategy from the start: pile on Mr. Trump in a way that ensured Republicans would rally for his nomination, then use legal proceedings to crush his ability to campaign, drain his resources, and make him too toxic (or isolated in prison) to win a general election. He won the nomination, but the effort against him is flailing, courtesy of an echo chamber of anti-Trump prosecutors and journalists who continue to indulge the fantasy that every court, judge, jury and timeline exists to dance to their partisan fervor.

    Democrats faced a critical choice last year: Try to win an election by confronting the real problem of a weak and old president presiding over unpopular far-left policies, or try to rig an outcome by embracing a lawfare stratagem. They chose the latter. Perhaps a court will still convict Mr. Trump of something, although that could play either way with the electorate. Lawfare as politics is a very risky business.

    Recap of political show trials:
    Florida
    : On hold indefinitely due to prosecutorial misconduct.
    DC: On hold as Supreme Court reviews immunity... likely heading back to lower courts to define "official acts".
    Georgia: On hold as Fani Willis' misconduct is reviewed
    NY record keeping case: Testimony has been extremely damaging to the prosecution. No evidence of crimes committed, only salacious details of sexcapades (not a crime) and nondisclosure/confidentiality agreements (perfectly legal)

    Oh, and DJT stock is up again today. Trump getting rich and gaining in the polls as the Democrats' tear down our legal system for political gain. Love to see it!
     
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  2. FrontRunner

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    Lol
     
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    in the trial, on Thursday, DJT was referred to as the "Orange Turd" repeatedly by both his defense attorney and Stormy Daniels




    Donald Trump’s lawyer Susan Necheles attempted to mischaracterize Stormy Daniels’ description of Donald Trump as the “orange turd”;
    Stormy Daniels saw through this line of questioning,



    at ~ 4 minute mark

    Q: :what do you mean that you said that you want to flush President Trump?

    A: I didn't say that; I said that i want to flush the Orange Turd down the toilet.​
     
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    I understand you have cognitive issues. You display them daily here. Let me explain to you
    A judge is not going to interrupt a witnesses testimony UNLESS the attorney strays into an area that had previously been told was off limits, they try to introduce evidence which was previously discussed as being off limits, or (are you reading closely here?) THE OPPOSING COUNSEL OBJECTS TO THE ****ING QUESTION.
     
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    Don't get so upset. I am sure you are much smarter than his lawyers.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Again the only reason Stormy Daniels was in the stand was to establish that a sexual encounter happened between her and Trump. Trump’s lawyer could’ve neutralized that by simply not contesting that. The crime Trump is charged with isn’t having sex with Stormy Daniels.

    Instead they chose to both contest that and attack Stormy Daniels’ character. They prolonged her testimony.

    You’re so eager to paint this as unfair to Trump as you’re excusing that his lawyers made a major strategic mistake either because they aren’t good lawyers or because Trump wanted them to do it.
     
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    Maybe it was a mistake. I guess the verdict will tell. I am guessing his lawyers are smarter than quite a few of the folks on Clutchfans.net
     
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    I’m guessing the judge and prosecution is smarter than a lot of Clutchfans yet that hasn’t stopped you from second guessing them.
     
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    Hahahahaha. They opened themselves up for that response.
     
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    trump and his legal team have pretty much whined and b****ed about everything in this trial and others, so this is nothing new or different. As you appear to be doing, again, no surprise. The point was whether trump's legal team sufficiently made objections to Ms. Daniel's testimony and its clear they didn't. The place to make such objections is in the courtroom.

    Your other complaint, that the judge is biased, is simply regurgitating the trump common whine. You are a trump supporter, so I get it. trump attacks every judge except maga judge cannon.
     
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    You mean the lawyers the judge basically admonished for not objecting? Those geniuses? Almost every lawyer who has looked at her testimony has said "WTF did these incompetent ****s not object?" Trump only hires the best
     
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    This set of attorneys appear to be an upgrade from his previous trials... but even his lead attorney, habbas admitted that she favored her looks over her smarts because she could fake being smart.
     
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    Trump's lawyers are lawyers for Trump... meaning Trump is the one calling the shots and dictating the legal strategy. Everyone knows that, and Trump even admits that he trusts his gut more than he does the legal experts.

    Does his strategy work where traditional lawyering does not???... IMO yes but it's not because he is smart, and certainly not because he knows the law better that his lawyers. His gut strategy is driven by the fact that the man has no shame, has endless means, and has managed to have a separate set of rules in life than the rest of us have to live by. It's a combination of blind luck, and brazenness... mixed in with the natural bully tactics he learned from a young age by Roy Cohn, and the other mobbed up folks he rubbed shoulders with in NY.

    ...

    So do CF.Net posters know better than Trump's lawyers??... no I'm sure in a normal case they would run circles around us legally in the court room. However most of us (even some Trump fans here) are smarter than Donald Trump who is objectively stupid, and ignorant. However Donald Trump has come out in life with a unique set of outcomes due to the fact that he was gifted 200+ million dollars from daddy, has been the most brazen a-hole in the public eye for decades, has made a simple exchange of tax & regulation cuts to billionaires in exchange for their financial/political backing, and managed to become a cult leader for more than 30% of America.
     
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    The left really struggles with political humor. I have yet to pinpoint why, although I suspect it's a right brain-left brain thing. But playing the Nazi card usually looks too passive/aggressive/angry which is self-defeating in humor.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    False, the defense's objection was not overruled. The judge sustained most of the defense's objections during her testimony.

    Calling the judge a clown and biased is the typical Trump supporter mindset. Anytime their side "loses" in court, it must be because the judge is a clown and is biased.
     
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    Maybe clown was a bit harsh. If anyone was offended, I apologize.
     
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