Player Development: A Star in Two Years or You are a bust!

Not his first two season. Pretty generic 38% on wide open 3s.

SO no it really isn't part of the reason.

 

Pretty sure Green is challenging our understanding of what a star is and brings to the table.....

 

I feel they teach some spacing (O & D) and fast breaks in A.A.U., but Highschool and college lean too much
on zone defenses and do a poor job of man-to-man
techniques.

Poor job of spacing as a 3-point shooter.

Often allowing one defender to guard two
shooters on the perimeter. Common sense
tells you move along the perimeter. Spread out.

Actually it can be seen anywhere on the court.
Don't make things easy for the defense.

 

But the interesting part of that is that Brunson came into the league at age 22. The same age Jalen is now. That's why it's so hard for me to completely give up on him (as much as I try).

It's also why it's so exciting that a guy like Sengun is putting up numbers that Brunson didn't put until he was in his year 27 season.

 

yeah, the age difference is worth noting. But even if you assume a 1-yr youth penalty for Jalen, you still need to see a big jump in shooting in season 4. So that’s what I’m hoping for. And it’s also worth acknowledging that even if Jalen’s shooting doesn’t come around, he still has other offensive skills that can help nba teams…just not as near-max player. I still see Jalen’s ability to get buckets.

my thing is I really believe in Sengun and Amen. They have the dynamic skills to be hugely impactful even if they never become good shooters. And I really think we need to have good shooting on the floor to offset. So even if Jalen is a really good scorer, I dont want to tie our future to him unless he’s at least an average shooter. And my biggest thing is that we not lose value on him for nothing. He may not be the right fit for us, but still have value around the league. We need to capture that value and transfer that to something else if he’s not our guy.

but im hoping Jalen maximizes his mid range. Comes out and gets to his spots and knock down shots. Then gradually ease into efficient long range shooting. We take a look at his numbers by allstar break, and he’s made a significant jump into 35%/36% 3pt with a big bump in true shooting %. But if not, we have to be ready to move on.

 

22-19=3

Not 1

 

We heard all last offseason how there was going to be a 3rd year leap after the first two awful seasons.... now we're hearing about a 4th year leap after the 3rd awful season.

New year, same playbook by the delusional fanbois.

 

You beat me to it.

If coaches project a player to be a one and done player....they are probably less likely to invest time teaching or coaching up.

It's more about use your athletics and these certain plays and get me a win.

 

He is a one off, and he had that great VILLANOVA coaching which has produced so many quality NBA guards......Jalen played AAU, then Gleague, then Silas - he hasn't had the best coaches, and he hasn't honestly improved that much.

So he has further to go, and no guarantee he gets there. He reminds me of LaVine a good player who might make an all - star game or two, but not a DUDE you build around.....and if the org agrees, they should be shopping him now while teams think he has upside still.

DD

 

I actually think that LaVine is a talented enough scorer that, if he could stay healthy (and he can't), you could build a successful team with him. I think he'd be fine playing the Jamal Murray role in Denver, for example. I just think you need an MVP caliber player next to him. Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, etc. And there just aren't a lot of those guys. But hey! We might have one if Sengun keeps progressing the way he has!

 

again one would have to know what right looks like to make an accurate assessment. Not only that a good manager would understand growth and development and putting their team in positions to learn and grow. Also bias and judgment is a big part of humans whether its corporate world or sports. The better leaders would reserve bias and judgement and support growth to get to team goals. Everyone makes mistakes even you. The key is whether there has been growth and development with whatever the individual is lacking and if there hasn’t then how can we get them there. There’s a lot of fit factors that go beyond “smart” in companies including personality and teamwork. Lots of fans don’t know what right looks like so every TO for instance is magnified and judged and hatred ensues. Some people act like Anthony Edwards never committed a “dumb” mistake or turned the ball over or made the wrong reads. It’s fascinating and sad at the same time

 

Hmmm. Just a little observation, 31% and 33.5% cannot be any higher than 33.5% combined.

 

Those two aren't combined, catch and shoot are one type of shot, open and wide open 3's are 2 different situations that can count any type of 3... it just looks at how close the nearest defender was to the shooter when the shot was taken.

 

Not many people know this.

 

I'm sure most do, especially when the two weren't combined.

 

He was also shooting 52% from the field and 40% from 3 his 3rd year and had good advanced numbers too.

 

At age 25 right?

If you look at on/off impact 22 year old Green has better on/off impact according to Cleaning the Glass on his team than 22 year old Brunson.