The Presidents of Harvard, MIT, Penn, Columbia should be forced to resign

If I had really needed to go on and further my education (I got a job back in Houston and started gettin PAID, around '98ish), overseas would have been it. One of my ex's did that, Rice undergrad, travel around, Double Masters at Jagiellonian U (it literally took me 3 times to spell this correctly, 2 google searches) in Krakow, back to Texas.

If you're ever there, I highly recommend a walk-through that place. I sat in a (not "the", there's one for specials, and there's one nobody can touch) same chair Copernicus did. No lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagiellonian_University

 

What a disaster 2024 Columbia has experienced and actually is especially with that unaware and inept University President- that video contrast just highlights the hypocrisy of her speak versus actual events

 

https://docs.google.com/document/u/...Ofn9FkI7TETgRtOfXK9VobMvGh6iEZfDPgALXJTCR/pub

In Our Name: A Message from Jewish Students at Columbia University

To the Columbia Community:

Over the past six months, many have spoken in our name. Some are well-meaning alumni or non-affiliates who show up to wave the Israeli flag outside Columbia’s gates. Some are politicians looking to use our experiences to foment America’s culture war. Most notably, some are our Jewish peers who tokenize themselves by claiming to represent “real Jewish values,” and attempt to delegitimize our lived experiences of antisemitism. We are here, writing to you as Jewish students at Columbia University, who are connected to our community and deeply engaged with our culture and history. We would like to speak in our name.

Many of us sit next to you in class. We are your lab partners, your study buddies, your peers, and your friends. We partake in the same student government, clubs, Greek life, volunteer organizations, and sports teams as you.

Most of us did not choose to be political activists. We do not bang on drums and chant catchy slogans. We are average students, just trying to make it through finals much like the rest of you. Those who demonize us under the cloak of anti-Zionism forced us into our activism and forced us to publicly defend our Jewish identities.

We proudly believe in the Jewish People’s right to self-determination in our historic homeland as a fundamental tenet of our Jewish identity. Contrary to what many have tried to sell you – no, Judaism cannot be separated from Israel. Zionism is, simply put, the manifestation of that belief.

Our religious texts are replete with references to Israel, Zion, and Jerusalem. The land of Israel is filled with archaeological remnants of a Jewish presence spanning centuries. Yet, despite generations of living in exile and diaspora across the globe, the Jewish People never ceased dreaming of returning to our homeland — Judea, the very place from which we derive our name, “Jews.” Indeed just a couple of days ago, we all closed our Passover seders with the proclamation, “Next Year in Jerusalem!”

Many of us are not religiously observant, yet Zionism remains a pillar of our Jewish identities. We have been kicked out of Russia, Libya, Ethiopia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Poland, Egypt, Algeria, Germany, Iran, and the list goes on. We connect to Israel not only as our ancestral homeland but as the only place in the modern world where Jews can safely take ownership of their own destiny. Our experiences at Columbia in the last six months are a poignant reminder of just that.

We were raised on stories from our grandparents of concentration camps, gas chambers, and ethnic cleansing. The essence of Hitler’s antisemitism was the very fact that we were “not European” enough, that as Jews we were threats to the “superior” Aryan race. This ideology ultimately left six million of our own in ashes.

The evil irony of today’s antisemitism is a twisted reversal of our Holocaust legacy; protestors on campus have dehumanized us, imposing upon us the characterization of the “white colonizer.” We have been told that we are “the oppressors of all brown people” and that “the Holocaust wasn’t special.” Students at Columbia have chanted “we don’t want no Zionists here,” alongside “death to the Zionist State” and to “go back to Poland,” where our relatives lie in mass graves.

This sick distortion illuminates the nature of antisemitism: In every generation, the Jewish People are blamed and scapegoated as responsible for the societal evil of the time. In Iran and in the Arab world, we were ethnically cleansed for our presumed ties to the “Zionist entity.” In Russia, we endured state-sponsored violence and were ultimately massacred for being capitalists. In Europe, we were the victims of genocide because we were communists and not European enough. And today, we face the accusation of being too European, painted as society’s worst evils – colonizers and oppressors. We are targeted for our belief that Israel, our ancestral and religious homeland, has a right to exist. We are targeted by those who misuse the word Zionist as a sanitized slur for Jew, synonymous with racist, oppressive, or genocidal. We know all too well that antisemitism is shapeshifting.

We are proud of Israel. The only democracy in the Middle East, Israel is home to millions of Mizrachi Jews (Jews of Middle Eastern descent), Ashkenazi Jews (Jews of Central and Eastern European descent), and Ethiopian Jews, as well as millions of Arab Israelis, over one million Muslims, and hundreds of thousands of Christians and Druze. Israel is nothing short of a miracle for the Jewish People and for the Middle East more broadly.

Our love for Israel does not necessitate blind political conformity. It’s quite the opposite. For many of us, it is our deep love for and commitment to Israel that pushes us to object when its government acts in ways we find problematic. Israeli political disagreement is an inherently Zionist activity; look no further than the protests against Netanyahu’s judicial reforms – from New York to Tel Aviv – to understand what it means to fight for the Israel we imagine. All it takes are a couple of coffee chats with us to realize that our visions for Israel differ dramatically from one another. Yet we all come from a place of love and an aspiration for a better future for Israelis and Palestinians alike.

If the last six months on campus have taught us anything, it is that a large and vocal population of the Columbia community does not understand the meaning of Zionism, and subsequently does not understand the essence of the Jewish People. Yet despite the fact that we have been calling out the antisemitism we’ve been experiencing for months, our concerns have been brushed off and invalidated. So here we are to remind you:

We sounded the alarm on October 12 when many protested against Israel while our friends’ and families’ dead bodies were still warm.

We recoiled when people screamed “resist by any means necessary,” telling us we are “all inbred” and that we “have no culture.”

We shuddered when an “activist” held up a sign telling Jewish students they were Hamas’s next targets, and we shook our heads in disbelief when Sidechat users told us we were lying.

We ultimately were not surprised when a leader of the CUAD encampment said publicly and proudly that “Zionists don’t deserve to live” and that we’re lucky they are “not just going out and murdering Zionists.”

We felt helpless when we watched students and faculty physically block Jewish students from entering parts of the campus we share, or even when they turned their faces away in silence. This silence is familiar. We will never forget.

One thing is for sure. We will not stop standing up for ourselves. We are proud to be Jews, and we are proud to be Zionists.

We came to Columbia because we wanted to expand our minds and engage in complex conversations. While campus may be riddled with hateful rhetoric and simplistic binaries now, it is never too late to start repairing the fractures and begin developing meaningful relationships across political and religious divides. Our tradition tells us, “Love peace and pursue peace.” We hope you will join us in earnestly pursuing peace, truth, and empathy. Together we can repair our campus.

 

Your kids political views will be shaped by your wife’s. And given she married you, she is probably quite open-minded.

 

Almost everything you post is rooted in hate.

 

Much appreciated. Thank you for your war against hate, and all the love you spread with your posts.

 

Yes, and then you lovingly grouped every single leftist into the same category. Way to not spread hate.

 

Do you think if people had the same time as you have to spare and were addicted to social media algorithms that purposefully fed content that confirms your biases because that maximizes engagement who hates Israelis couldn't dump their twitter feed on to this message board of every example of unhinged Israeli protestors?

 

If you lived in 1920s Germany and modern technology existed back then your Twitter feed would be just spammed incidents of individual Jewish people saying something stupid or bad or doing something bad. Basically it would turn into a police blotter but just of Jewish people crimes.

 

It's a good essay and I agree with a lot of it. But it also turns on this one assertion, which I've quoted, that is fundamentally at odds with modern western liberalism and, following it to its logical conclusion, ultimately justifies an ethno-nationalist state and (in Bibi's version) discrimination, oppression and death. I'm sympathetic to the existential predicament conditions have put Jews in, but I can also see that their fight to have a homeland has resulted in millions of Palestinians in large open-air ghettos, denied access to goods, denied jobs, denied education, denied land, denied rights, and now openly bombed, invaded, and starved. How can one look at that and think its justified by anything.

I want to see Israel continue to exist. I want to see Jews in it. But Israel has behaved very badly the last couple of decades in an effort to maintain an Israel that is officially Jewish. All those Palestinians in occupied lands should be citizens and have rights and the voting franchise. Israel fears what will happen to Jews if their voice is diluted by so many Muslims. But, they've used that existential threat to justify all kinds of oppression and atrocities. It's not acceptable. I want Israel to exist, but that's not a blank check to do whatever you want to people. And it's not sustainable either. For Israel's own long-term prospects, they either need to ethnically cleanse the country (which isn't acceptable) or else find a way to continue to exist with Jews and Palestinians as equal citizens. Maintaining a free and prosperous society for Jews in Israel while occupying and oppressing Palestinian territories was never cool and it can't go on much longer.