1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2024 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Nov 6, 2023.

  1. Rockets34Legend

    Rockets34Legend Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    20,884
    Likes Received:
    15,833
     
  2. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,434
    Likes Received:
    15,701
    On the whole of this season so far (136 pa), Pedro Leon has shown an ability to strike out less than he has in his previous AAA seasons while maintaining his walk rate and power output. Maybe another 75 pa or so to tell for sure, but if that holds, he will have a lot better odds of being an everyday player in the majors rather than a strikeout-prone 4th OF or bench player.
     
  3. Willy92683

    Willy92683 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    548
    I'm still rooting for Leon and hopes he pans out to be more than a 4th OF or bench player.
     
    everyday eddie and AznH-TownFan like this.
  4. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,812
    Likes Received:
    10,545
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  5. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,812
    Likes Received:
    10,545
    Yeriel Santos with another solid outing for Fayetteville: 5 IP, 6 H, ER, BB, 6 K... he's gaining helium early on.

    Unfortunately, the Woodpeckers' only run came on a Juan Santander solo shot and they lost 4-1 to Carolina. Santander now has three homers this season. It's probably nothing, but Santander has played 18 games and only two have come as a catcher. He has DHed in seven games (including today) and appeared in nine games (started 8) at 1B. Fernando Caldera has gotten most of the playing time behind the plate.
     
    Marteen and Snake Diggit like this.
  6. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,627
    Likes Received:
    6,441
    HR for Leon

     
    raining threes and crose like this.
  7. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,434
    Likes Received:
    15,701
    The last highlight I saw of Santander, he looked pretty heavy. I’m wondering if he has gotten too round to be viewed a legit catcher and will be relegated to 1B or DH. That’d be a big low to his value.
     
  8. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,434
    Likes Received:
    15,701
    30 HR power, 50 SB speed, cannon arm. He might be making a move. Would be such a huge boon for the Astros.
     
  9. Willy92683

    Willy92683 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    548
    Can't be worse than noodle arm Meyers and he'll be better on the bases, hopefully.
     
    raining threes likes this.
  10. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,812
    Likes Received:
    10,545
    C.J. Stubbs and Chad Stevens were both released yesterday.

    Both showed some power but neither of them could really hit (they both hovered around the Mendoza Line for their careers). In Stubbs' case, he couldn't stay healthy either (never played more than 100 games in a season).
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  11. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,434
    Likes Received:
    15,701
    Not terribly surprising although I would have expected JC Correa to get the axe before CJ Stubbs.

    With Stubbs’ release, there are 9 players remaining in the system from Jeff Luhnow’s last draft:

    P Hunter Brown
    IF Grae Kessinger
    P Blair Henley
    P Ryan Gusto
    P Cole McDonald
    1B Jordan Brewer
    LF Colin Barber
    UT Bryan Arias
    C/UT JC Correa

    Korey Lee and Peyton Battenfield were traded and both reached the majors. But Hunter Brown may end up being the only meaningful player from that whole draft.
     
    #911 Snake Diggit, May 8, 2024
    Last edited: May 8, 2024
  12. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,546
    Likes Received:
    114,126
    He is a very unusual player - and I strongly believe that he has had a lot of bad luck that has hindered his development. He had some injuries in Cuba, and missed part of their season. He then missed over a year when he got to the Dominican Republic. Then he signs with the Astros after exhibiting bat speed and velocity off the bat that only like 5 players in the big league have - and COVID hits. Then the Astros foolishly believe that they can convert him to SS after seeing him workout and his athleticism - with the idea that he could replace Correa.

    All of that took a massive toll cumulatively on his development. He is not putting up massive numbers like Yordan did in AAA, but he is putting up good numbers and his strikeouts are down. I have seen a good amount of his play - and if the Astros call him up, they will need to give him at bats. He is someone that is streaky but overall productive when getting at bats. I am not sure the Astros have those at bats for him. I still remember a scout telling me that he believed that Leon would actually play better in the big leagues than AAA once he was comfortable because he doesn't struggle to hit good stuff, it is crap that he struggles with.
     
  13. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,546
    Likes Received:
    114,126
    Yeah - it also highlights how dynamic all of this is in baseball. Innovation is constantly happening and the game itself is all moving parts. An organization or GM can be the best, in over a 2-3 span can fall behind. We even saw that with the Astros under Luhnow. He went through a lot of changes in the player development and scouting world. He moved on from very successful and smart people, he hired just so bring in someone else that had some innovation or more productive way of doing their job. He even changed the structure of the organization every few years.

    Dana Brown was largely recognized as the best scout and scouting director in baseball for like 5 years. He was key to building that organization. Does that mean he is STILL the best? Maybe - maybe not....... same with Elias and the Orioles. You innovate or you fall behind. The best example was Epstein with the Cubs. They didn't bring in smart fresh voices and they collapsed quickly.

    It is possible we were seeing the same with Luhnow - look at his last couple drafts. Look at his handling of the scouting at the end, almost getting rid of all the actual scouts.

    There are teams like the Dodgers that just have so much money - that they can hire the very best recent graduates, and keep the best older coaches and scientists and math guys and filter them out every year so that they are competitive every year - but most teams are not like that.
     
  14. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,812
    Likes Received:
    10,545
  15. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    24,114
    Likes Received:
    14,231
    So I googled Space Cowboys as I am sick of watching the Astros. This image came up:
    download.jpg
    The movie probably is campy, but I don't care. I'm not sure if I knew this and forgot, but somehow the knowledge of the existence of something that looks so gloriously bad has escaped me.
     
  16. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,329
    Likes Received:
    28,425
    That was all over the sub when the team name was announced.

    You'll probably be disappointed because it's not really bad or campy...it's not really all that great either. Firmly in the just good enough to remember parts of tier.
     
    Wulaw Horn likes this.
  17. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    86,785
    Likes Received:
    85,311
    Boooomers iiinnnnnn Spaaaaaace
     
  18. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,329
    Likes Received:
    28,425
    On Leon, one of the many reasons I've wanted to see Meyers play is the situation we are starting to find ourselves in now. If Meyers can post a .750ish OPS he is a great starter, if he can't I imagine Leon can replace him as a likely lateral move while providing upside.

    Instead we keep seeing f**king Dubon run out there creating a blockade of guys who are just passable.
     
  19. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    5,619
    Likes Received:
    6,413
    Part of the reason I hate seeing Dubon in CF is because he is a known quantity. He has ZERO upside.

    Now to be fair, his floor is basically MLB average but he already is what he is and can possibly be.

    Meanwhile there are several unproven guys who could potentially be better and every day they sit on the bench is another day of not finding out
     
    The Beard and phasors28 like this.
  20. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,546
    Likes Received:
    114,126
    I am fine with Dubon and I am even fine with him coming into center on a double switch or something of that sort.

    The problem is we need more firmly entrenched starters IMO. We need a starting centerfielder and a starting left fielder.... and a reserve that can play both... same at 1st base. Just too much variance IMO.
     
    BlindHog likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now