Why do you leftist idiots oppose anti-corruption candidates?

Why do you defend a candidate who has a long history of scams like running a false university and charities for veterans so badly that he had to shut down his foundation and family had to take lessons on how to run a foundation?

 

Every politician claims they are anti-corruption.

That's why I support all politicians. All politicians say they are for freedom and anti-corruption. How can you not like all our politicians? They even say they love democracy and combating poverty.

 

Because we're idiots, silly.

 

Because the conservative voters have not held their politicians accountable either. It has effectively become a race to the bottom, which is quite obvious to everyone except the partisans.

Partisans have lost touch with reality. Anyone who is subscribing to the "lesser of two evils" are the remainder partisans. Much of America is in disgust with people who are openly supporting either candidate.

 

I don't "support" candidates.

I fear candidates who have an entire voting base who call avacado pickers invaders and have jubilant conversations about dousing 5.56 rounds in pigs blood to make sure Muslims instantly go to hell...


It's not that I support any candidate. It's more that I fear what the status quo positions in our society are from whom is elected suggesting a turn towards fascism(the far right reactionary ideology) as the default most common position.

 

The Trump Foundation was forced to shut down while he was president. Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump had official positions in the Administration dealing with foreign affairs while they had business interests in countries they officially dealt with. Both got millions in benefits from those countries with Kushner getting $2 billion in funding from the United Arab Emirates.

In the meantime the House impeachment investigation couldn’t even get articles of impeachment for Biden and some of their own witnesses countered the idea that Joe Biden was actually involved in Hunter Biden’s business.

I wouldn’t but Trump isn’t that candidate. That you continue to do so even though by your own admission he has committed corrupt acts, certainly under the Biblical definitions, says more about how slavish your devotion is than those you accuse.

 

No they didn't you ****ing clown. He ran a fake charity and was banned from having a charity while he was President. The Trunp University settlement was while he was President . Please educate yourself.

 

Don't forget all the patents China rushed through for Ivanka when Daddy ,who wants to be her lover, was President.
Also the Chinese Trademarks Donald received from China while President

 

It is utter bs that parties do not hold corrupt politicians accountable, with one exception. Corrupt politicians have been held and continue to be held accountable by both parties historically. You know the one exception.

Republicans block and refuse to hold Trump accountable. You yourself advocate for not holding Trump accountable.

 

Eh Trump is no where close to the first president to not be held accountable.

Reagan is another prime example.

 

Educate me here... what were the alleged crimes?

 

Iran Contra is the most obvious. Id say the admin did a good job creating scapegoats to shield Reagan but even then the scapegoats are prominent fox news guest pundits to this day so even the scapegoats didn't get their accountability.

The Reagan admin was addicted to funding right wing death squads all over South America. A lot of crimes probably from that. Hell JFK probably should have been held accountable for the bs he was trying to do in South American countries.

 

Reagan in many ways is the first version of Trump. Many similar attributes.

Dumb as rocks when it comes to nuanced policy discussion like Trump. But charismatic and knew the right things to say to his base

Didn't hold sincere conservative values before becoming governor and president. Was fine with hanging out with lgbtq people regularly for example. Lived a Hollywood lifestyle.

Got addicted to right wing politics by seeing how easy it is to use basic jingoism to attract a strong base of supporters. I think he saw how easy he could attract a dedicated base by doing things like turning college students as his number one enemy while governor because of anti-war protests. That got him addicted to that right wing drug.

The neo conservative think tank heads really did an amazing job reforming his image as this deep thinking conservative stalworth.

Reagan didn't have the aggressive attack dog mentality of insulting everyone who remotely disagreed with him. That's probably the main difference between the two. He was more cordial. But they are very similar in different ways.

 

I'll reply later on Reagan; interesting comparison

 

I would say that Nixon really is the starting point for the modern day MAGA party, but Reagan was the most consequential. Reagan shows what you can do with weaponizing the court system to corrupt the system against the many for the privileged few.

He got to office by corrupt means (having deals cut to withhold the Iran hostages to sabotage Carter's re-election), put the economy on a temporary sugar high via tax cuts, and used that power to nominate judges who systematically tore down our system of justice. Ultimately the final blow was citizens united years later but those initial court decisions to start the legalization of bribery 100% started with Reagan.

From a political standpoint, yes Reagan really rode the wave of privileged white conservative grievance. It was all anger and grievance about how hippies, and other people (insert coded language for black people) were freeloaders that were robbing the government blind, and therefore you couldn't trust the government anymore... so vote for me, and tax cuts for rich people.

*To be fare here though, Bill Clinton did things to double down on some of the Reagan policies as well. "Era of Big Government is Over...", establishment of NAFTA, etc. etc.

The sugar high that Reagan injected into the US blood stream had a reputation that such it was really hard to politically have more of the traditional Democratic FDR, Kennedy, LBJ type of policies. But make no mistake, we saw this all lead to what happened during the Obama years with the rot at the Supreme Court which allowed for Trump to exist at any level. Trump could not exist without the corruption of American billionaires, and Trump cannot exist without the buying and selling off of politically motivated and corrupt justices like Clarence Thomas, and Eileen Cannon.

Nixon is the start of the heart and soul of the MAGA movement, but make no mistake....Reagan instituted the corruption that allows it to have real threatening power to overturn our Democracy in a full fledged autocracy here very very soon.

 

LOL, you guys try to save this moronic thread by engaging in a somewhat reasonable intelligent debate and the best he can do is come back with "well, the point is that you're just a big POO POO FACE!!!11"