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[EC 1st Round] (4) Cleveland Vs. (5) Orlando

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Mr. Dominant, Apr 17, 2024.

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(4) Cleveland Vs. (5) Orlando

  1. Cavaliers in 4

  2. Cavaliers in 5

  3. Cavaliers in 6

  4. Cavaliers in 7

  5. Magic in 4

  6. Magic in 5

  7. Magic in 6

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  1. thegary

    thegary Contributing Member

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    Cleveland playing with more urgency
     
  2. StroudAndYorDaddy

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    nope

    franz wagner is one of the best young players in the league.. just needs a better coach

    i'll take franz over that ballhog fluka
     
  3. daywalker02

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    Very disappointed in that Cade Mobley draft class.
     
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  4. Mr. Dominant

    Mr. Dominant Contributing Member

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    Where was this Mitchell in Utah?
     
  5. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Looks like a dunk to ice it.
     
  6. JW86

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    Celtics sweep incoming, awful basketball.
     
  7. Mango

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    JB coaching them to the Second Round is interesting.
     
  8. DreamShook

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    im glad orlando lost.
     
  9. Tuckmose

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    Mitchell got to the 2nd round with JBB, something Harden couldn't do.

    Fanbois punching air rn.
     
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  10. zeeshan2

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    Mobley is awful lol

    all those teams you mentioned got either one picks or got lucky from trades and the magic are awful; they just play in the east so it looks better
     
  11. Reeko

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    Franz getting crucified by Magic fans

    Paolo was awful in the 2nd half

    both Cleveland and Orlando have the same problem: a core that can’t score
     
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  12. daywalker02

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    Magic came out firing in the 1st Quarter and crapped the bed beginning with the end of the 2nd Q and the 2nd half.
     
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  14. StroudAndYorDaddy

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    mobley is light years a better prospect than jalen green.. rockets giving jalen green a huge extension would be borderline idiotic. he’s been a negative bpm/vorp guy his entire career
     
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    franz needs to be the one handling the ball, not paolo
     
  16. zeeshan2

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    That’s the funniest thing I have read all day about Mobley being light years ahead. Dude has been in the league 3 years and has no offensive game development at all
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...-free-agency-guides-every-eliminated-nba-team

    Orlando Magic

    2023-24 record: 47-35

    Draft picks in June: No. 18 (own) and No. 47 (own)

    Free agents: Goga Bitadze, Markelle Fultz, Joe Ingles (T), Chuma Okeke (R), Moritz Wagner (T), Kevon Harris (R), Trevelin Queen (R) and Admiral Schofield (R)

    State of the roster: The Magic exceeded expectations this season by winning 47 games, a 13-win improvement from last season and a 25-win jump from the 2021-22 season. The fourth-youngest roster during the regular season ranked third in defensive efficiency and seventh in winning percentage in games decided in the clutch. The regular-season accomplishments, however, are overshadowed by losing in the first round, at least in the short term. Orlando now has to evaluate if its playoff shortcomings were a result of playoff inexperience, the offensive struggles that carried over from the regular season or a combination of both. The Magic ranked 22nd in offensive efficiency and 24th in 3-point shooting in the regular season. They were the only playoff team that ranked in the bottom 10 in shooting from deep.

    "We have to be very cautious and very targeted in the way that we build out our next steps," Magic president of basketball operations Jeff Weltman said on the "Open Mike" podcast before the playoffs started. "But I will say, we definitely feel we'd be able to attract players we would not have been a couple of years ago. I don't think there is any reason we can't be thinking about how that can be a part of our planning moving forward to attract players from other teams."

    The Magic have 11 players under contract including All-Star Paolo Banchero, and are one of three playoff teams (Oklahoma City and Philadelphia) that will have significant cap space this summer. Besides the financial flexibility to add in free agency (or a possible trade), the Magic have five tradable firsts and no player earning more than $17 million.

    Offseason finances: The Magic ranked in the bottom three in payroll the past three seasons, building the roster through the draft and low-cost acquisitions in free agency. Even with 11 players under contract and the addition of a first-round pick, Orlando could create up to $35 million in room. The projection takes into consideration picking up the team options of Ingles and Moritz Wagner and not waiving Jonathan Isaac, whose $17.4 million salary is non-guaranteed. Orlando has until June 29 to pick up the Ingles and Wagner options for next season. The Magic will likely have the $8 million room midlevel exception and the second-round exception available this summer.

    Top front office priority: Besides extension talks with Franz Wagner and Jalen Suggs, the Magic will need to figure out how to improve the offense without taking away their identity on defense or impeding the development of their young players, all while maintaining their financial flexibility in the future. Would it make sense to offer lucrative contracts to free agents Tyus Jones and Klay Thompson? The Magic's payroll is expected to increase in 2025 because of possible extensions for Suggs and Franz Wagner, then again the following season with Banchero's extension. Reshaping the offense starts with finding a facilitator to create easier shots for Banchero and Franz Wagner. The Magic ranked 28th in assists this season with Suggs, Anthony Black and Markelle Fultz each starting at point guard. Banchero and Franz Wagner led Orlando in assists. Per Cleaning the Glass, Suggs and Black ranked in the bottom 25th percentile in assist-to-usage rate at their position, while Jones ranked in the 95th percentile with the Washington Wizards. The Magic also need to address a lack of shooters on the roster. Orlando continued to rank as one the worst 3-point shooting teams, evident by the loss to the Cavaliers. No player on the roster shot greater than 40% from deep and starting shooting guard Gary Harris is a free agent. The list of available shooting guards includes Thompson, Malik Monk, Buddy Hield, Gary Trent Jr. and Luke Kennard (if his $14.5 million team option is declined).

    Extension candidates to watch: The Magic have prioritized drafting, developing and then retaining their own players. In recent offseasons, Orlando re-signed Fultz, Isaac, Wendell Carter Jr. and Cole Anthony. Suggs and Franz Wagner are next in line. Wagner averaged a career-high 19.7 points, and had 11 games this season with 20 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists. In the Game 3 win, Wagner scored 34 points and missed only four shots. But he struggled shooting the basketball this season and had a rapid decline after the All-Star break. Wagner shot 29.1% on all jumpers (29.5% on catch-and-shoot jumpers) and ranked last among players with at least 100 attempts per Second Spectrum. After the All-Star break he shot 18.5% on 3-pointers. Suggs is the quarterback of a defense that ranked in the top three this season. He tied for eighth in steals and ranked in the top 10 in defensive estimated plus-minus. Suggs shot a career-high 47.1% from the field and 39.7% on 3-pointers.

    Other extension candidates: Fultz (through June 30), Harris (through June 30), Isaac, Carter (as of Oct. 1) and Caleb Houstan (as of July 10)

    Team needs: Facilitator on offense, 3-point shooting and depth at center.

    Future draft assets: The Magic are one of seven teams that control their own first-round pick over the next seven years. They can also trade swap rights in each year. The Nuggets owe the Magic a first-round pick. It is top-5 protected in 2025, 2026 and 2027. Orlando has the right to swap its 2026 first for the less favorable of Phoenix and Washington. Orlando has 12 second-round picks available.
     
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  18. StroudAndYorDaddy

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    there are two sides of the ball
     
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  19. A_3PO

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    He never left the bubble.
     
  20. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Orlando is young with thier first playoff experience in years, they'll get better. They had a good showing for a newly experienced team honestly.

    But if thier fanbase panics and it opens future opportunities for us that's cool too.
     
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