Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Citation? Never heard of that

 

The secret to their success was nothing they had to work with in World War I. There were no bayonets, no trench brooms and no chemical warfare (at least, not from the Americans). The U.S. 1st Infantry Division (Mechanized) instead used minesweeping plows mounted on tanks along with "combat earthmovers" in what soon became known as the "bulldozer assault."

Rather than clear the trenches man by man, the Americans simply plowed through the Iraqis on combat earthmovers, even burying some defenders alive as they tried in vain to shoot the bulldozers.

"For all I know, we could have killed thousands," Col. Anthony Moreno, commander of the brigade that led the assault, told The Seattle Times. "I came through right after the lead company. What you saw was a bunch of buried trenches with people's arms and things sticking out of them."

The Americans suffered zero casualties in the assault, as they were all inside of armored vehicles and the Iraqi ground forces had no answer to them. As the Iraqis watched their comrades buried alive, they began to surrender en masse.


https://www.military.com/history/bu...rm-saw-us-army-opt-out-of-trench-warfare.html

 

Go IDF ! Don't stop !

 

Don't stop what?? Bombing volunteers from Australia? You want a cookie

 

they just killed five people trying to deliver food to people who are starving. is that what you are cheering? i cant imagine anyone doing that, but there are a lot of trump supporters out there.

 

Imagine what they could have accomplished without all the complex tunnels and instead did something else...to the other complete assbackwards idiots on here that side with Hamas and the ministry of information ran by Hamas and are offended when I say "Go IDF don't stop- " this is why- you have to eradicate these people that puts terroristic complexes near hospitals and schools - they don't value the lives of gazans that might otherwise not subscribe to the Hamas ideology of death to Israel no matter - death to all Jews even if it means sacrificing their own children- why would you want the IDF to stop? Why should Hamas continue to do what it wants ?

naw I'll repeat GO IDF and don't stop! Eradicate these Hamas and any Hamas sympathizers can honestly jump off a bridge and I wouldn't have a second thought. Death to them as well as far as I'm concerned

 

According to World Central Kitchen one of the seven aid workers killed was an American.

 

Probably with American weapons that our tax dollars helped subsidize.

 

I was curious about the nature of so called US “military aid” to Israel.

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/

Here is how GPT-4 summarizes the relationship:

The United States' military assistance to Israel is a significant aspect of the bilateral relationship between the two countries, characterized by various forms of aid including financial grants, defense equipment, and collaborative defense projects. This assistance is often termed as "military aid" and encompasses several key components:

1. Foreign Military Financing (FMF): The largest component of U.S. military assistance to Israel comes through the Foreign Military Financing program. Under FMF, Israel receives funds that are used to purchase military equipment and services from American companies. This assistance is part of a broader package that is negotiated between the two countries and has been subject to long-term agreements.
2. Direct Commercial Sales: In addition to FMF, Israel can purchase defense equipment through Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) from U.S. firms. While FMF funds can be used for these purchases, DCS transactions are conducted directly between the Israeli government and the American companies, without the U.S. government acting as the intermediary.
3. Defense Budget Appropriations: Congress annually appropriates funds specifically for various defense and security-related programs that benefit Israel. These appropriations may include funding for missile defense systems like the Iron Dome, David’s Sling, and Arrow missile defense systems. These funds are separate from FMF and are often allocated for specific defense projects rather than general military expenditures.
4. Loan Guarantees: While not direct military aid, the U.S. has also provided Israel with loan guarantees, which enable Israel to borrow at lower interest rates. These are not direct financial assistance but do provide economic support, indirectly benefiting military financing by improving Israel's overall financial position.

Regarding the cost of weapons and military equipment, the aid provided under FMF essentially means that U.S. taxpayers are subsidizing the purchase of these items, since the funds granted do not need to be repaid. Israel, however, pays for a portion of its military procurement directly through its own budget, especially for items not covered under FMF or for amounts exceeding the FMF allocation.

The characterization of this assistance as "aid" reflects the fact that it involves significant financial grants that Israel does not repay, effectively subsidizing Israel's defense procurement from the United States. Over time, agreements between the U.S. and Israel have evolved, with recent ones requiring a greater portion of FMF to be spent on U.S.-made goods and services, aimed at benefiting the U.S. defense industry and ensuring interoperability of U.S. and Israeli forces.

This military aid is part of a broader strategic partnership, with the U.S. viewing Israel as a key ally in the Middle East. The assistance is intended to maintain Israel's qualitative military edge in the region, support U.S. defense industries, and promote shared security interests.
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what are you talking about here you dork? what does this have to do with my post where i asked why roxran was cheering on the deaths of 5 (now 7) aid workers trying to provide food to starving people? he was cheering for the IDF after they killed aid workers.

you, ATW and tinman all liked his post so i guess that means yall like that the IDF killed innocent aid workers too. yall are pathetic.

 

waiting for roxran, basso, ATW and tinman to like this post.

 

7 of them. They are halting their aid program in Gaza.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/aid-group-says-israeli-strike-052936356.html

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — An Israeli airstrike killed seven aid workers from World Central Kitchen, leading the charity to suspend delivery Tuesday of v...

Of course those 7 were really Hamas terrorists and World Central Kitchen is an antisemitic organization aligned with Hamas. That's how it's done, right?

 

For those who don't know basso is paraphrasing what Roman Senator Cato ended his speeches with "Carthago delende est" (Carthage must be destroyed). This was in the leadup to the last Roman war with Carthage where the Romans killed every man (even elderly), woman and child in Carthage and then razed the city to the ground.

 

Israel is saying right now it is a regrettable accident. When they are Arabs affiliated with an aid organization, rather than outsiders from the West, it’s much easier to just call them terrorists and move on.

 

interesting. i guess in that context i can understand why basso and others are getting off so much on the IDF killing aid workers.

 

According to Israeli leaders, IDF air strikes are signed off by multiple levels, including the highest level. How many tragic "mistakes" have they made? The IDF is again showing that it has a cultural problem of shooting first and asking questions later. It doesn't have to be that way, and Israel is doing itself no favors by allowing it. All their leaders should resign, and there should be a new election to replace Netanyahu.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/0...r-gaza-news#world-central-kitchen-strike-gaza

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel acknowledged on Tuesday a “tragic case of our forces unintentionally hitting innocent people” after an aid convoy run by the World Central Kitchen was struck in Gaza.

The strike killed seven aid workers from countries including the United States, Britain, Poland and Australia.

The aid group, which has become an important player in delivering aid to the territory in an effort to alleviate a humanitarian crisis, blamed Israeli forces for the deadly strike and said on Tuesday it was suspending its operations in the region.

The killings of the aid workers, who were traveling in clearly marked cars, drew condemnation from aid organizations and several governments whose citizens were among the dead.

World Central Kitchen said in a statement that the team was leaving a warehouse in central Gaza in two armored cars after unloading humanitarian food aid. The group said the convoy was hit despite having coordinated its movements with the Israeli military.

Erin Gore, the nonprofit’s chief executive officer, said that the group’s employees were killed in “a targeted attack” by the Israeli military, without providing evidence.

“This is unforgivable,” Ms. Gore said.

Footage distributed by Reuters showed a white vehicle marked with the group’s logo on its roof, with a hole half of the width of the car. The nationalities of the seven killed included Australia, Poland, Britain, the United States, Canada and Palestine, according to World Central Kitchen.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese of Australia identified one of the victims as Zomi Frankcom, an Australian citizen and a manager at World Central Kitchen. “We want full accountability for this, because this is a tragedy that should never have occurred,” he told reporters.

“The truth is that this is beyond any reasonable circumstances,” he said, adding that his government had summoned the Israeli ambassador to Australia.

 

hard to believe that the IDF didnt know who they were targeting. i definitely see a pattern here.

and to see other posters here cheering on the deaths of aid workers...you have to be a real evil piece of s*** to do that.